Titant

@iKaos Original true color using Premiere Pro with Colorista pluging : https://imgsli.com/Mjc2MDk1
07/02/2024 6:03 AM


DrBALL

@Titant

Looks GAY
07/02/2024 6:49 AM


ethan2awesome

@Titant

mid-tier shitpost bro. believed it somewhat until i saw the lobster skin color
07/02/2024 7:20 AM


-___-

@Titant

lol is this a joke post
07/02/2024 11:17 AM


Titant

nope, just open your eyes : https://imgsli.com/Mjc2MTQ5
07/02/2024 12:34 PM


datlolboi

@titant You retarded or smthing?
07/02/2024 3:06 PM


ethan2awesome

@titant i respect committing to the bit
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07/02/2024 4:19 PM


-___-

this is why we should ban french people from all spaces
07/02/2024 6:58 PM


Venny

@Titant
You didn't remove any "tint". All you did was turn the yellow into blue LOL. You pull some random LUT from Premiere Pro and act like you did a better job. You can even see here that you just made the more balanced whites skewed blue which isn't accurate.
https://slow.pics/c/XF28gRWZ
07/02/2024 7:20 PM


Titant

Why are you too cocky. I never said I did better. I just told you it's possible to do better and with what software to do it. That's all.
07/03/2024 6:08 AM


-___-

Everything in that software is already in Da Vinci Resolve and was used for this project. Nothing you have posted is better. It is measurably worse in every way.
07/03/2024 6:38 AM


The-unexpectable

Now that I see the pictures, I realize how yellowish this release is. What's more, it's ridiculously overcropped. Far too much was cut off to the left and right of the image.
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07/03/2024 8:59 AM


NeoGohan

@The-unexpectable
This is why you would never reliably calibrate your TV simply by sight without the proper tools. A properly calibrated picture will look 'yellow' next to an overly blue image. If you've ever switched your TV's color from "cool" to "warm", you'd get the same effect.

This release isn't "too yellow", and as you experienced only seems like it when put next to an image with way too much blue.
07/03/2024 1:37 PM


DrBALL

@Venny

Are you so desperate for that SoM approval that you’ve resorted to regurgitating crap that’s been explained thousands of times. You’re even worse than the Unexpectable retard

Nobody likes a dickrider.
07/03/2024 1:47 PM


Venny

@DrBALL
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07/03/2024 3:19 PM


iKaos

Imagine a Dragon Ball torrent without cancer in the comments
07/03/2024 6:04 PM


JanSilver01

Hello Mr. Kaos
07/03/2024 9:34 PM


Venny

@The-unexpectable
Believe it or not, MPEG-2-encoded DVDs don't have a lot of color information (insane thought I know) so you can't get a perfect color correction without introducing artifacts or needing to do extreme filtering. The color correction done on GT was to remove any harsh tints and to balance the color so the entire show looks consistent. The issue with the Dragon Box is Toei didn't correctly color time their negatives so almost every individual shot has a different tint that needed to be white balanced and hue corrected manually.

Also, cropping is essential to get the correct PAR. The amount cropped is basically nothing and if a few pixels on the sides of the screen really bothers you that much I feel like you care less about watching this release and more about having something to complain about. No one who actually wants to watch GT cares about a few pixels.

Also are you sure this release is "yellow"? I'm looking at the before and after comparisons and a few episodes I downloaded and the before looks far more yellow in the first few episodes than the after. The color correction if anything restores a lot of the blues lost in the DBox release not overshoot the yellows.
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07/03/2024 1:03 PM


The-unexpectable

@Venny
Thanks for the clarification. Personally, I always prefer the image to remain uncropped. Ultimately, it's a matter of personal taste.

@DrBALL
What drugs are you taking? Or did your parents not teach you manners? I would be ashamed of such behavior.
07/04/2024 11:44 AM


DrBALL

@ The-unexpectable.

What Venny (pointlessly) told you to look high iq, is actually in the description. So, maybe read it next time before complaining about nothing, you tard. It might answer some of your questions about the release. You'd know this if you bothered to read! Even considering things like PAR a "matter of taste" makes you look retarded. Yes!
07/04/2024 7:48 PM


DisplayNamee

@Venny, like everyone, just wants the perfect release. Sharing constructive thoughts is totally fine. If someone can take this release, and make it even better, why not? I think SoM would be happy to help whoever they are because the entire purpose of this project was to make it better than official releases.
07/04/2024 11:23 PM


The-unexpectable

@DrBALL
You write "actually" but it is not the case.
In addition, your statements make you look ridiculous and it is sad when one cannot distinguish an expression of opinion from a statement of fact. It is a real shame.

And there are a lot of people who don't watch animes when they are cropped. And this is the case here.
And there are many other people who are saying the same.
You just need to compare with the DBBOX.
Even if you want to explain it with PAR-correction it doesn't change the fact that it is CROPPED.
So it is your decision if you can live with this fact or not. lmao
07/05/2024 6:03 AM


JanSilver01

Every anime you've ever seen made on film is cropped. I worry these complaints of cropping will give the false impression that the video looks like the DBZ Orange Bricks DVD or Season Sets Blu-Ray.
Here are some good examples with an explanation for why the final product looks this way https://x.com/seedofmight/status/1760487838548639935?t=729QeUReHCQBLTDIpYiylA&s=19
07/05/2024 10:04 AM


maka_

great work but why this much effort on gt
07/05/2024 4:32 PM


LightArrowsEXE

Bit late, but if you want a way more technical document on PAR and why cropping is part of the process, I recommend this page. Zewia also wrote a shorter explanation in his DVD remuxing guide.
07/10/2024 9:28 AM


The-unexpectable

@JanSilver01 @LightArrowsEXE
I can accept it if a very small part of the image needs to be cropped. But look at this comparison. In my opinion, it can't be right if Goku's black pupil on the left is completely cut off.

https://slow.pics/c/6ELdMqmQ

And that completely destroys the feeling of watching this series when details are missing on the left and right sides. For me these are not overscanned areas. But pixels that are intended to be seen.
Today at 9:44 AM


-___-

This is advanced level autism. Please shut the fuck up - nothing is ruined and you will 'accept' what you are given.
Today at 12:25 PM


PeePeePooPoo69

Dude get some lobotomy for your autism and just watch something else. It's no hard.
Today at 12:27 PM


motbob

I agree that it doesn't make sense to crop real details just because you're trying to follow a guide on how to do things "right."
Today at 12:42 PM


FlyingToaster

"You will accept what you are given"

Holy shit did that feel like your own bad parent speaking through the fat & ugly 30 year old version of yourself.
Today at 12:48 PM


The-unexpectable

@-_- @PeePeePoo69 You are talking about your autism? Sorry that probaly no doctor in this world would be able to help you to recover from your illness.

@FlyingToaster

I just showed the facts. What is the problem? First I said it is cropped and then they said "no". Now you can't accept the truth?

You are not able to respond with facts but starting to offend other people. Don't be a pseudo internet rambo and say that in front of my face instead of writing nonsense.

@motbob
You are absolutely right.
Today at 1:13 PM


iKaos

@The-unexpectable The only person above who has the authority to speak on why we did what we did is JanSilver01 as he is actually on the SoM team. If you're not able to view the twitter thread he posted, here it is unrolled: https://unrollnow.com/status/1760487838548639935

No one in SoM denies that the image is slightly cropped from what is presented on the DBOX, nor did we "follow a guide" to blindly pick a PAR. The PAR we chose is based on many tests conducted way back in 2020 regarding the proper PAR of how the show should be displayed based on how it was animated. As stated in our Z release write up way back in 2021 and in the condensed writeup on Twitter above, we believe that having a proper PAR is woth losing a few pixels on the side of the frame, which more often than not are just black bars. As JanSilver01 said above and as presented in LightArrowsEXE's links, ALL film based material (anime, movies, TV shows) is cropped to some degree when converted for playback, and DVD rips (and raw remuxes) can distort the originally intended PAR due to being made during the CRT (which would have had massive overscan). While it's true animators will draw stuff all the way to the edges of a film frame, you are not meant to see the things that appear at the fringes of the screen that are outside the intended AR crop.

If our cropping out a few pixels of an eyeball that is already slammed to the side of the screen ruins this and our other releases for you, then that's unfortunate, however the DVD remuxes as still available for you to watch with improper PAR and colors.
Today at 1:48 PM


motbob

Putting the PAR/DAR issue aside, everything you're saying does not have any bearing whatsoever on the main point here. There is REAL detail from REAL drawings made by REAL people that you are cutting out, and no matter how many standards you cite and how many essays you write about the technical aspects of what you're doing, that's not going to change. You have not said why having a proper PAR is worth cutting that detail out, and I don't expect you to explain why, since there is no possible satisfactory explanation except "because it fits the NTSC standard," which is barely a justification at all if we're concerned about viewing experience and not academic concerns, like wanting to have a perfectly 4:3 final image for some reason. In the dragon ball z PDF you do not explain why having "inconsistent and blurred black bars" is more undesirable than the removal of REAL content.

Note that nothing I'm saying is meant to imply that you should display the video at an inaccurate final pixel aspect ratio. Maintaining that is important, but it's no problem to do so even if you change the crop (or eliminate it).
Today at 2:37 PM

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