This is transcription of various messages leaked by Frank, alias Idiot, alias K626, sent between him and ors, namely Twisty Amanozako, and other images included in various Imgur collections. See >>90139967 for the Imgur hyper-links.
(From stream chat:)
twisty_amanozako: it just feels
twisty_amanozako: so fucking shit bro
twisty_amanozako: like not to rant (to rant)
twisty_amanozako: i feel like i try so hard
twisty_amanozako: we all try so hard
twisty_amanozako: and none of it matters
pedreivax: It's especially rough in the current landscape
colonelcuddlebear: it matters to me
nhkconspirator: i love watching every second
twisty_amanozako: not for you guys
colonelcuddlebear: and one of my friends
twisty_amanozako: i dont mean that
twisty_amanozako: i dont regret what i do
twisty_amanozako: and trying
twisty_amanozako: because everything i do is for you
twisty_amanozako: but its hard not to lose ur mind some days
twisty_amanozako: like why am i here
colonelcuddlebear: @twisty_amanozako i know bc youre obssessed with us
colonelcuddlebear: @twisty_amanozako i think that kinda normal wherever you work? since i feel like that everyday at my job?
[...]
nhkconspirator: so it feels like you're working towards nothing?
pedreivax: Maybe feeling a little imposter syndrome?
twisty_amanozako: not imposter syndrome
twisty_amanozako: more like
twisty_amanozako: im not jp syndrome
twisty_amanozako: so i dont matter
nhkconspirator: you lost me. im sorry
colonelcuddlebear: shes not jp niji
colonelcuddlebear: jp is japanese
pedreivax: Ah, so just how the current state of Niji is at the moment is hitting you hard.
twisty_amanozako: yeah pretty much
twisty_amanozako: i dont think it will improve
nhkconspirator: someone explain to me later pls
twisty_amanozako: antis get more brazen
twisty_amanozako: meanwhile i just have to sit here and take it
CielLexci: I got you during League if no one else has.
colonelcuddlebear: @nhkconspirator niji en has kinda taken a hit and a lot of people hate them for no reason
twisty_amanozako: they can slander me and spread shit all day and nothing happens
twisty_amanozako: cuz i cant be like ah hai hai ur an idiot !
CielLexci: I did see the comment today
colonelcuddlebear: so hear me out
pedreivax: Yeah, we talked about that one reply yesterday morning
[...]
twisty_amanozako: like usually i delete them
colonelcuddlebear: situational rp where you call haters idiots? think itll be allowed
twisty_amanozako: but hex was like encouraging my bad thoughts LOL
twisty_amanozako: @colonelcuddlebear no point
twisty_amanozako: it wont change anything
colonelcuddlebear: it might help your mental for a bit tho
twisty_amanozako: tbh
twisty_amanozako: idrc abotu antis
twisty_amanozako: they dont affect my mental
twisty_amanozako: im moreso just annoyed i cant call them dumb
twisty_amanozako: its just other factors i cant talk about really
twisty_amanozako: that are upsetting
colonelcuddlebear: i c
pedreivax: It's kind of a tough situation too. On one hand, telling them off COULD embarrass them. On the other hand, it's likely that the response is what they're looking for.
colonelcuddlebear: you know where to find me if you ever need to vent twisty
imstugi32: [hai]
twisty_amanozako: ya i appreciate
twisty_amanozako: i just
twisty_amanozako: want things to get better
Zel____: [looks like twisty_happy.gif or twisty_headpat.gif]
twisty_amanozako: but idk how to do that
twisty_amanozako: idk if its possible
twisty_amanozako: idk if there is anything i can do to affect it
colonelcuddlebear: i think as of rn its not possible and there isnt much to do until corpo decides to do something about it
twisty_amanozako: yeah and they wont
twisty_amanozako: cuz jps fine!
twisty_amanozako: so gg [smilingrobot]
[Note: the [...] indicates where the screenshots did not overlap, and thus I could not be sure if there were any breaks. Similarly, because the comments do not have timestamps, the order is also unclear. However, I do not believe that there is anything lost because of the gaps.]


Discord logs:
[Twisty, time unclear]:
can i be honest w u
Frank (09/19/2024 2:16 AM):
Obviously
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:16 AM):
i dont think its worth
ill explain
after game
cuz its a lot
Frank (09/19/2024 2:17 AM):
I do. I love that viewers enjoy it tbh. Like the asmr screen gets so much love
And i kind of figured you were playing
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:18 AM):
i think like
that kind of stuff is not worth
bc 1
ive spent 10k
two
i love her
like genuinely
but it makes me sad
that
it doesnt feel like there is much i can do in that situation
i dont think its worth to be putting a ton of monye into it
bc like
[...]
[Twisty, time unclear]:
yeah and im happy to hav emet you
Frank (09/19/2024 2:19 AM):
So of course i want to see new stuff
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:20 AM):
and everyone else right
so ofc you can do wahtever you want
but stuff like
Frank (09/19/2024 2:20 AM):
Of course i wabt to see you grow
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:20 AM):
stream assets
its just not going to happen
growing
will just not happen
speaking honestly
which idm
but its moer so like
i cannot do the things iw ant to
Frank (09/19/2024 2:21 AM):
It genuinely makes me a sad when you talk like that
Not to be a pussy
But like why?
Why do you think that?
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:21 AM):
think what
Frank (09/19/2024 2:21 AM):
Genuinely?
That growing wont happen?
People love her
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:22 AM):
its not
about her
its the company
like
people who leave
leave for a reason
it is not viable
im not saying
she will leave
but
i do plan on streaming on this acc
bc
Frank (09/19/2024 2:23 AM):
They why? Why join?
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:23 AM):
i donk think its fair to me to not have thigns like
Frank (09/19/2024 2:23 AM):
Pedro kinda told me some stuff
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:23 AM):
3d for example
till 2027
things happened
out of nowhere p much
Frank (09/19/2024 2:24 AM):
Yeah is that really the timeline they gave you??
2027?
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:24 AM):
no
from soneone who left
[re: [Twisty] things happened]
Frank (09/19/2024 2:24 AM):
I won稚 press, but I値l assume you had no way of knowing
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:24 AM):
yeah
like
we had no idea
what we were getting into
i couldnt just leave right
10k indebt
i dont think theyre evil
ppl say that a lot
its not true
Frank (09/19/2024 2:25 AM):
It痴 just a company making money
I get that
Sucks tho
[..]
[Twisty, time unclear]:
yeah but
like
they dont understand
Frank (09/19/2024 2:26 AM):
Idk it痴 just depressing
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:26 AM):
its not the same as before
its so so unfair to us
we make
Frank (09/19/2024 2:26 AM):
I can only imagine how u feel
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:26 AM):
50% of everything
they have done nothing for me
its just very skewed
it sucks
like
Frank (09/19/2024 2:27 AM):
Im not joking. Not in any weird haha im always here for you sort of thing but i unironically dont mind helping with stuff that i can
Im a fan
Actually
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:27 AM):
obviously dont repeat right
but
we technically are not allowed
to do
anything else
content related
Frank (09/19/2024 2:27 AM):
Wow
I can稚 believe things are so strict
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:27 AM):
its
greed
they dont want us to have anything else
Frank (09/19/2024 2:28 AM):
Im surprised you can even collab at this point wtf
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:28 AM):
but being there
and
doing this like
speaking honestly
theres chance i get fired
Frank (09/19/2024 2:28 AM):
I know
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:28 AM):
i dont really care like
i think its fucking dumb
Frank (09/19/2024 2:28 AM):
Stop come one
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:28 AM):
i cant do anything
i get nothing
and im supposed to be happy w that
u know
the reason i was so fucked
we were heavily encouraged to spend money
on debut
so i did
cuz we all thought
its fine
others made like
25k first month
like
its fine!
ig et my first paycheck
$100
they took
90% of it
to pay off my assets
i hadnt made any money in like
9 months
bc
things kept getting delayed
i remember when i signed
i was told
id get a certain amount of money
and it can go to whatever iw ant (edited)
so im thinking
ok finally
i can like off this for a few months ill budget etc.
they took it
and put it into assets fund
i was never told that
they just did it
we were told
to quit our jobs for this
u cant stream elsewhere
i had to delete
all my old accs
delete my discord server
etc.
so
i hav enothing
all my old fans are gone
[...]
not my fans
but
the companies fans
other ppls
Frank (09/19/2024 2:34 AM):
Oh yeah
I know
[re: @Frank So you think going solo is better?]
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:34 AM):
not solo
but
i want to do both
Frank (09/19/2024 2:34 AM):
Is that possible???
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:34 AM):
we'll see
i asked
was basically told
probably not happen
idrc
i will be doing it regardlesse
its 100% evil to lock us in
when a lot of us are making 0 money
Frank (09/19/2024 2:36 AM):
True but what about the whole getting termina[ted] thing?
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:36 AM):
i personally
Frank (09/19/2024 2:36 AM):
Like im sure you thought this out
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:36 AM):
dont think they will
like
Frank (09/19/2024 2:36 AM):
But like the fans
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:36 AM):
when i had a mental breakdown
and went to twitch
it was bc
aster was saying like
he wants to fly me out to japan
saying weird sexual shit
Frank (09/19/2024 2:37 AM):
O
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:37 AM):
sexpesting my friends
i went to management
they wouldnt even speak to him
i was
really considering graduating
Frank (09/19/2024 2:37 AM):
Im sorry that happened
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:37 AM):
but my manager talked me out of it
Frank (09/19/2024 2:37 AM):
Genuinely
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:37 AM):
bc
it feels gross to me
like
i feel like
i am hiding his behavior
Frank (09/19/2024 2:37 AM):
And im glad you didn稚 leave
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:37 AM):
cuz its not just me
its many many girls
a lot of my friends
Frank (09/19/2024 2:38 AM):
Yeah seal told me after i asked who he is
I don稚 understand why a company wouldn稚 do anything?
Like really?
Nothing?
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:39 AM):
i mean idk
but i assume
they are scared to fire
after what happened
Frank (09/19/2024 2:39 AM):
Why?
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:39 AM):
bad pr (edited)
Frank (09/19/2024 2:39 AM):
I guess that’s why you think this whole two people thing could work?
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:40 AM):
ya
Frank (09/19/2024 2:40 AM):
I hope it does for your sake.
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:40 AM):
idrc either way like
i really dont want to leave
but
Frank (09/19/2024 2:40 AM):
I know (edited)
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:40 AM):
sometimes u need to do things that are liek
like i cant be perma begging bear for food money every month
Frank (09/19/2024 2:40 AM):
You really do that? (edited)
I thought you were joking?
I only saw the disc messages
But i understand
Do what you have to do
I mean like it or not you need money to survive
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:42 AM):
no like
unironically
like before
hed buy me stuff off throne
or like
if i wanted stupid shit
but i feel really bad like
that he has a fucking fund lmao to save money for me
Frank (09/19/2024 2:43 AM):
Damn idk what to say
I feel bad
But like what do you have planned honestly?
Like youve got to know this is such an awkward job to be successful in
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:44 AM):
planned how so
i mean
you dont need to be like
K626 (09/19/2024 2:44 AM):
Im sure you’ll always have hardcore fans
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:44 AM):
super successful to make a living honestly
K626 (09/19/2024 2:44 AM):
But like
You know
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:44 AM):
bc
idk like
for example
aptreon was rlly big source of income for me
bc hundreds of ppl for like (edited)
$5 a month
means a lot more
than
1000s but i get 50%
K626 (09/19/2024 2:45 AM):
Right
Are you not allowed to have one now?
No right?
But i was thinking like furnished house, car, able to eat food everyday and travel once in a while.
A normal life
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:47 AM):
no
i mena
i dont travel
all my expenses are
vtubing related
idrc about anything else
K626 (09/19/2024 2:48 AM):
But you want to go yo japan right?
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:48 AM):
maybe
league and my oshis
not really
i would go to do off collabs w ppl who l;ive there
but
japan is
pretty cheap
like
K626 (09/19/2024 2:48 AM):
But the ticket
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:48 AM):
maybe 3k for trip
its like
K626 (09/19/2024 2:48 AM):
Is different
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:48 AM):
$800
K626 (09/19/2024 2:48 AM):
???
Oh right
West coast
[...]
[Re: [Twisty] league and my oshis]
K626 (09/19/2024 2:49 AM):
And are those really your only expenses?
Like come on be serious
What about food?
Or other utilities
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:53 AM):
i meant like
for funs tuff right
like i dont pay rent rn
but i pay for food
cuz n othings ever in fridge
i dont drive
or leave ghouse
esp if i leave west coast
prices get way cheaper
K626 (09/19/2024 2:53 AM):
Im similar you literally called out my mom driving me
But like
You know
The future is a thing
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:53 AM):
driving is scary
K626 (09/19/2024 2:53 AM):
Agreed
[...]
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:54 AM):
i will never drive
K626 (09/19/2024 2:54 AM):
Sure, but what about when you do have those expenses??
Even without the care
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:55 AM):
i mean
most ppl can live off of like
5k/month
for example
right
depending on where u live
K626 (09/19/2024 2:55 AM):
5k is a lot per month
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:56 AM):
ya like
honestly
even less is doable
esp if not west coast
K626 (09/19/2024 2:56 AM):
True
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:56 AM):
1000 rent utilities
500 food
[...]
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:04 AM):
my mommy
also
r u rlly not into loli
K626 (09/19/2024 4:06 AM):
You dodged those names so it's gotta be one of them
And not really if i can be honest
I don’t care much either way tho
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:07 AM):
its none of those
K626 (09/19/2024 4:07 AM):
Youre my friend now i dont judge
No way
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:07 AM):
i just thought it was obvious so i didnt bother
K626 (09/19/2024 4:07 AM):
Wtf
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:07 AM):
i dont rlly know
why u like my friend
i feel like most of the common interest is loli or degen stuff
like asmr
K626 (09/19/2024 4:08 AM):
She’s funny when she tries.
And can change the mood of a group of people when she’s in the mood
For good or bad
Genuinely gives off idol vibes
I only really started caring more because i was interested in idol culture and why people care
And she made me get it
Not to be sappy
And the asmr is weird yeah but the ones outside of the up close stuff are funny
I like them
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:10 AM):
LMAO
K626 (09/19/2024 4:10 AM):
Plus it’s fun to just play along in chat
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:10 AM):
i would not say idol culture
she kind of kills all of that
K626 (09/19/2024 4:10 AM):
Ive even come around to the normal asmr stuff a little
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:10 AM):
i do like idols though
i just dont think i could do it
ik most ppl like jerk off to asmr
[...]
K626 (09/19/2024 4:11 AM):
I guess but, i genuinely think she has that sort of vibe that can sway people
You know
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:11 AM):
but i mostly got into it from jp girls
and i put it on my tv while i sleep
K626 (09/19/2024 4:11 AM):
Obviously
[Re: K626 I guess but, i genuinely think she has that sort of vibe that can sway people]
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:11 AM):
to being mentally insane?
K626 (09/19/2024 4:11 AM):
The countdown mallow is a good recent example
Like we’re not clueless
[Re: [Twisty] i just dont think i could do it]
K626 (09/19/2024 4:12 AM):
That’s insecurities talking tbh
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:13 AM):
no im just
mentally ill
Frank (09/19/2024 4:13 AM):
You already have dedicated fans
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:13 AM):
idols are very sanitized
Frank (09/19/2024 4:13 AM):
No matter how small
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:13 AM):
making a discord server to play league
is not idollike
Frank (09/19/2024 4:13 AM):
Fair
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:13 AM):
i do want to sing and dance and stuff tho
Frank (09/19/2024 4:13 AM):
But that's now what i mean
It's that magnetizing personality
People get sad when your sad
Laugh when you do
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:14 AM):
i think thats them being mentally ill personally
Frank (09/19/2024 4:14 AM):
Feel motivated when you do
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:14 AM):
but i am too
K626 (09/19/2024 4:14 AM):
-_-
[...]
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:14 AM):
so it fits
K626 (09/19/2024 4:14 AM):
Pessimistic
Like amu literally quit smoking
And she smoked a lot
Like a lot a lot (edited)
Idk she shouldn’t doubt herself tbh
People love her
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:15 AM):
its not doubt
i know that
thats the only reason she does anything
like
i was
afk perma
ive never rlly done anything in my life
i have 0 motivation
but i feel like i finally have something to like
look forward to
K626 (09/19/2024 4:16 AM):
I know the feeling. I only really do stuff for my friends
Otherwise im in my house decaying
And even during like the darker times where she would do nothing but
guerillas and stay on twit[ter]
People were just happy to see her
[...]
K626 (09/19/2024 4:40 AM):
please dont tell me you fell asleep...
i put contact in :(((
[INVITE TO JOIN GROUP
Game has ended
Join]
you actual scammer
u owe me idiot
gn
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:49 AM):
MY STOMACH
IS DYING
I TE MAC AND CHEESE Ok
K626 (09/19/2024 4:49 AM):
Oh
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:49 AM):
my phone died
K626 (09/19/2024 4:49 AM):
Is okay
Still down?
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:54 AM):
ya
K626 (09/19/2024 4:55 AM):
kk lmk when ur done
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:55 AM):
im sitting in bed dead
save me
K626 (09/19/2024 4:55 AM):
-_-
Get up
Or you scammed me
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:56 AM):
wtf
K626 (09/19/2024 4:56 AM):
[INVITE TO JOIN GROUP
Game has ended
Join]
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:56 AM):
i didnt scam shit
[laugh reaction
K626 (09/19/2024 4:56 AM):
join bozo
comeee onnnnnn
lulu
del
yuumi
(that's ur name?)
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 4:57 AM):
i wish
K626 (09/19/2024 4:57 AM):
lol
are you still in bed?
no way are you scrolling tiktok...
?
this kid... -_-
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 5:00 AM):
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTFjjuard/
[TikTok
TikTok - OrianaASMR
308.2K likes, 5496 comments. "Replying to @benitokardashian First Time Balkan Breakfast [crying eyes emoji] . . . . . ."
[...]
[Twisty] [time unclear]:
invite pedro
K626 (09/19/2024 5:14 AM):
kk
hes not on
should i message?
i did anyway
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 5:14 AM):
hes up
K626 (09/19/2024 5:14 AM):
i know
vc?
or vibe
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 5:15 AM):
up to u
K626 (09/19/2024 5:15 AM):
are any weirdos up?
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 5:15 AM):
bear at work
king prob asleep
K626 (09/19/2024 5:15 AM):
so league vc?
that fine
join
bozo
JOIN
[...]
[Frank, cont'd]:
[...] not, and I really hope you know what you're doing. Like I know we talked about it earlier, but still I can't help but be worried.
Sorry for bothering you again, and for the spam
Frank (09/19/2024 4:52 PM):
[hyper-link to "Spiritmate Playlist", with description: "Playlist for fans of the cutest most adorable Ojou-sama in all the universe.".]
The playlist we mentioned
And do not add to it -_-
[re: Frank Okay, i hate to bring up three different convos while you are probably sleeping, but Ive got to ask before...]
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 5:37 PM):
my thought process is
should my job really be able to stop me from doing something like this
technically i haven稚 done anything wrong [note the apostrophe]
[re: Frank Btw you're probably asleep but I was curious why all your friends left?]
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 5:37 PM):
theyre scared of schizoa
Frank (09/19/2024 5:40 PM):
Understandable
[...]
[Twisty, cont'd]:
but the rules are retarded
also
Frank (09/19/2024 9:08 PM):
be serious
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 9:08 PM):
making a discord server
doesnt break anything
Frank (09/19/2024 9:08 PM):
?
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 9:08 PM):
but
i would get yelled at
regardless
Frank (09/19/2024 9:09 PM):
ive had everyone tell me otherwise
like everyone
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 9:09 PM):
i cant make a discord server on my ol acc
and post it?
Frank (09/19/2024 9:09 PM):
i mean....
i see what ur saying
but come on
you know how that would turn out
ur not dumb
[...]
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 9:09 PM):
would i get yelled at
yes
should they be allowed to stop me
no
Frank (09/19/2024 9:10 PM):
i dont disagree but nobody wants to see u get in trouble
u know that
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 9:11 PM):
then they should try
supporting me more
Frank (09/19/2024 9:11 PM):
look
ur right
but
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 9:11 PM):
nothing will change
if we dont make it change
i try to give them the benefit of the doubt
always
Frank (09/19/2024 9:11 PM):
i believe in you. it just sounds insane
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 9:11 PM):
see the best
Frank (09/19/2024 9:11 PM):
honestly
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 9:11 PM):
but they are fucking us over
Frank (09/19/2024 9:15 PM):
idk what to say im sorry. just try not to get in trouble
i mostly just wanted to see if you thought this out at all
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 9:15 PM):
i mean i did
Frank (09/19/2024 9:15 PM):
because thinking over what you said
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 9:15 PM):
ive been thinking about it for a while
Frank (09/19/2024 9:15 PM):
u sound insane
like having two streams
is mental
like i dont think thats possible
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 9:16 PM):
thats
very common
inv tuber spac ebtw
[re: [Twisty] ive been thinking about it for a while]
Frank (09/19/2024 9:16 PM):
i dont doubt that
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 9:16 PM):
hololive can do it
they dont let us
a manager literally told someone
that like
they dont allow it
bc u need to be stuck here
Frank (09/19/2024 9:17 PM):
geez
i believe in you, but serious stuff aside
why cant i view ur profile even tho we're friends??
im trying to look at ur games
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 9:20 PM):
idk
Frank (09/19/2024 9:20 PM):
?
why are you like this
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 9:20 PM):
idk how
[...]
[Twisty] (09/20/2024 9:18 PM):
while dming drinnos
and bear
like
change ur pfp!
that most ppl dont recognize
Frank (09/20/2024 9:18 PM):
Did not know that
[Twisty] (09/20/2024 9:18 PM):
like
idk if u speak 4chan
but
theyre p much all
active there
Frank (09/20/2024 9:19 PM):
Yeah, i have ur server muted for a reason tbh
What about it tho?
And all of them??
[Twisty] (09/20/2024 9:19 PM):
what about wat
Frank (09/20/2024 9:19 PM):
Like seal told me he went to find ur past stuff
[re: [Twisty] what about wat]
Frank (09/20/2024 9:19 PM):
4chan
[...]
[Twisty] (09/20/2024 9:19 PM):
ya
thats how they found it
or maybe ciel found it and posted
Frank (09/20/2024 9:20 PM):
O
[Twisty] (09/20/2024 9:20 PM):
idk
but
they requested my private acc
Frank (09/20/2024 9:20 PM):
huh
[Twisty] (09/20/2024 9:20 PM):
which is only leaked
on 4chan
like the name
Frank (09/20/2024 9:20 PM):
Yeah he told me
Not the name
But about it
Well i guess that's good to know
I didn't realize everyone was a creep tbh
Feel stupid
Again
[Twisty] (09/20/2024 9:21 PM):
[...]
Frank [time unclear]:
Like i just assumed if you told them off they would just get more weird and probably do something dumb
Like ive seen you shit on people plenty of times but idk i guess it's a little different with these guys
Maybe you just don't care that much ( like usual) but idk im so used to you speaking ur mind when you're mad (edited)
[Twisty] (09/20/2024 10:07 PM):
i mean i do
but
its very easy
to misconstrue stuff
i remember i said like
on twt
tis was whenppl first found my acc
and i was pisses
bc ppl kept trying to be sexual w me
like
and i didtn realize
till midway thru convo
like
they werent fellow loli appreciators
or hololive fnas
Frank (09/20/2024 10:08 PM):
O
[Twisty] (09/20/2024 10:08 PM):
they were from other acc
bc they were like
us hould collab with rosemie
tc.
etc.
and i made a tweet like
dont be sexual w me
i already have two annoying pl
but atleast they pay me for being annoying
and ppl took that as
i ahjte my fans
i only want money
like no
i thought we were friends
and they started being weird
Frank (09/20/2024 10:09 PM):
I get that but tbh
Not everyone is ur friend
Knowing what i know now
A lot of people want something
Idk guess you know that now but that's just like so crazy
Like they don’t even actually know u??
Why are they hitting on someone they’ve enver seen before or really talked to that long???
[Re: [Twisty] and they started being weird]
K626 (09/20/2024 10:11 PM):
And tbh
It was probably their intention from the start (edited)
Like relate to you first then ????
Idk just kinda sorry you had to deal that shit when it seems like you obviously just want friends
At least to me
And no offense
[Twisty] (09/20/2024 10:13 PM):
no like
ur right
i am just dumb
and i didnt realize
cuz ya
a lot of guys into lolis
are just
horny
like i liked naked anime girls
so ppl just assume im perma horny and shit
like no i just like cute girls LOL
K626 (09/20/2024 10:15 PM):
Tbh it is kinda weird for a girl but yeah i get what ur saying
[Twisty] (09/20/2024 10:16 PM):
i mean ik a lot of girls who like them
btu arent like
into
K626 (09/20/2024 10:17 PM):
Yeah idk im just used to women being into men on men stuff
Kinda gross tbh
Or just like flat out handsome men/pretty boys (edited)
[Twisty] (09/20/2024 10:19 PM):
i hate yaoi
K626 (09/20/2024 10:20 PM):
I know lol
--September 21, 2024--
[Twisty] (09/21/2024 12:16 AM):
do u wanna play 1
or 2
while i order
food
K626 (09/21/2024 12:17 AM):
Whatever is fine
should i vc?
[Twisty] (09/21/2024 12:18 AM):
ya ill hop in
K626 (09/21/2024 12:18 AM):
[INVITE TO JOIN GROUP
Game has ended
Join]
[Twisty] (09/21/2024 12:18 AM):
gimme sec
K626 (09/21/2024 12:18 AM):
kk
[Twisty] (09/21/2024 12:18 AM):
can u promote me
so i can inv
will be back
5m maybe
ordering pizza
K626 (09/21/2024 12:19 AM):
kk
ooo
what toppings?
[...]
[Frank, cont'd]:
Kinda the reason i have that stupid nhk name on a lot of my old accounts
I meant to ask
Are you really mixed? Or are you just sticking to a joke?
[Twisty] (09/22/2024 4:23 AM):
im 25%
Frank (09/22/2024 4:23 AM):
Really?
[Twisty] (09/22/2024 4:23 AM):
ya
Frank (09/22/2024 4:24 AM):
Honestly thought you were being edgy
Never know with u
[Twisty] (09/22/2024 4:24 AM):
LMAO
nah i hate being black id never claim this dogshit for a joke
Frank (09/22/2024 4:24 AM):
Hmm
[Twisty] (09/22/2024 4:24 AM):
everyday of my life i have wondered why i cant have straight hair
then i remember
Frank (09/22/2024 4:24 AM):
I get that
[Twisty] (09/22/2024 4:24 AM):
my dad is evil
Frank (09/22/2024 4:24 AM):
Did he do something?
I don't understand
[Twisty] (09/22/2024 4:25 AM):
be black
yes
[...]
[Twisty] (09/22/2024 4:27 AM):
i mean i get told i look hispanic
asian etc
like i can pass as like
racial ambiguous
maybe white if i straighten my hair
Frank (09/22/2024 4:27 AM):
Then mostly self loathing?
[Twisty] (09/22/2024 4:27 AM):
but im rlly pale
Frank (09/22/2024 4:27 AM):
I understand that
[Twisty] (09/22/2024 4:28 AM):
no i just hate dealing w my hair
Frank (09/22/2024 4:28 AM):
Oh i get that too lol
[Twisty] (09/22/2024 4:28 AM):
its not fair other ppl get to wake up brush their hair and be done
Frank (09/22/2024 4:28 AM):
The curls are too much
[Twisty] (09/22/2024 4:28 AM):
i have to do fucking everything on the planet
im so over it
Frank (09/22/2024 4:28 AM):
Do you talk to your dad's side of the family?
[Twisty] (09/22/2024 4:29 AM):
never met him
Frank (09/22/2024 4:29 AM):
Oh
Like
He died? (edited)
[Twisty] (09/22/2024 4:31 AM):
no hes black
doesnt care about me
Frank (09/22/2024 4:31 AM):
Sorry (edited)
My dad stayed around
He just died when i was still in highschool
Guess he's the exception not the rule
[Twisty] (09/22/2024 4:33 AM):
idk i mean
i could be wrong ofc
but every black guy ive met is evil
so
[...]
[Twisty] (09/22/2024 4:44 AM):
but i made drinnos join when u played league
so i could stalk
cuz i was curious
and i was like
Frank (09/22/2024 4:44 AM):
Stalk?
[Twisty] (09/22/2024 4:44 AM):
wtf hes black
Frank (09/22/2024 4:44 AM):
I wondered why u were quiet?
[Twisty] (09/22/2024 4:44 AM):
i wanted to hear wat u guys sounded like
no like
before server
in the fan server
Frank (09/22/2024 4:45 AM):
Oh yeah no i always sound the same lol
Same with pedro
I was just less loud in the other server
And way less profanity
That’s funny though
I lowkey thought it was weird
Also when did the “wft he’s black” moment hit? Lmao
[...]
[Twisty, cont'd]:
[laughing while crying emoji]
this was like
before we spoke
a few weeks ago
Frank (09/22/2204 4:50 AM):
Hmm?
Wdym?
You planned this ?
[Twisty] (09/22/2204 4:51 AM):
do u engrish
btw
Frank (09/22/2204 4:51 AM):
?????
Make sense woman
Oh but like
[Twisty] (09/22/2204 4:52 AM):
u guys were always calling
and i felt leftout
Frank (09/22/2204 4:52 AM):
You talked to us already?
[Twisty] (09/22/2204 4:52 AM):
so i made drinnos join
to play league with u guys
a few weeks ago
[...]
[Twisty] (09/22/2024 4:57 AM):
well u say like actual friends
so im assuming u mena
other than u
Frank (09/22/2024 4:58 AM):
Yeah
I understand not having irls tho
If I didn’t know these guys from middle school
Id probably be u
Not like in a bad way btw lol
Just that id probably only have online friends
Damn i sound like a dick
Lol my bad
[Twisty] (09/22/2024 5:00 AM):
no its ok
dw
i get it
Frank (09/22/2024 5:00 AM):
Uhh so during the drinnos old sesrver thing
Did you actually hear us all?
[Twisty] (09/22/2024 5:00 AM):
barely
enough to tell ur black
Frank (09/22/2024 5:01 AM):
That’s really funny
[...]
Idiot [same pfp as Frank] (09/23/2024 9:18 PM):
You池e missing the point
And you skipped over everything else i said
And how did you give up everything for this job?
Youre still young
You have skills even if you don稚 think you do
It痴 not like you池e unhireable
[Twisty] (09/23/2024 9:21 PM):
i am 100% unhireable
no vtuber company would touch me ever
Idiot (09/23/2024 9:22 PM):
What about a solo career? You致e done it before right?
And again, you池e missing the other stuff I said.
[Twisty] (09/23/2024 9:22 PM):
maybe in 3 yrs when i can afford it
cuz the other stuff is pointless
u dont really understand the situation
so like i understand why u say it
but its just n ot true
Idiot (09/23/2024 9:23 PM):
That痴 something to look forward to then right? You have goals
Then help me understand
And how is stuff like family pointless? A lot of what i said doesn稚 even have anything to with vtu[bers]
It稚 just like general life stuff
[...]
[Frank, cont'd]:
You have a form of support system
You have skills
And even if you think you're unhireable to vtuber agencys
There are other options for work
[Twisty] (9/23/2024 9:29 PM):
i would sooner kill myself then get a real job
[re: @Frank And even if you think you're unhireable to vtuber agencys]
[Twisty] (9/23/2024 9:29 PM):
i dont think this
i know this
Frank (9/23/2024 9:29 PM):
Is money really what you want?
[Twisty] (9/23/2024 9:30 PM):
once you join an agency of this scale
you close off every other other chance
they will not take u
bc of all the controversy
i am too much of a risk
for smaller agencies
i cannot work with tons of artist bc of it
Frank (9/23/2024 9:35 PM):
Then what about your plan? And you have plenty of people you've talked to from other agencies right?
[Twisty] (9/23/2024 9:35 PM):
again like
Frank (09/23/2024 9:35 PM):
And that doesn't change the fact that, that wouldn't be the end of your life
[Twisty] (09/23/2024 9:35 PM):
plan doesnt rlly matter
cuz it cant rlly happen
Frank (09/23/2024 9:37 PM):
Well you also have the solo career in the 3 years
That's something
You're missing the point lulu
Your life isn't over
[Twisty] (09/23/2024 9:38 PM):
ya there will just be nothing to live for
wanting to kms for 3 years
as im trapped in literal hell
w no money
constantly being shit on
i lov elife
Frank (09/23/2024 9:38 PM):
Then why not just leave now??
Seriously
[Twisty] (09/23/2024 9:39 PM):
i cant
Frank (09/23/2024 9:39 PM):
If you really hate it, why not just get fired or qui[t?] There's gotta be stuff you like about it
[Twisty] (09/23/2024 9:39 PM):
even if i leave
there is nothing to go back to
Frank (09/23/2024 9:39 PM):
What did you have before??
Like i get you can't get with any agency
But people will still follow
Watch
Support
[Twisty] (09/23/2024 9:41 PM):
not really
my channel is dead
Frank (09/23/2024 9:41 PM):
And even then i just can't believe you can't get hired at any agency. You know so many people
That's not true
[Twisty] (09/23/2024 9:41 PM):
knowing ppl doesnt matter
eveyrone knows eachother
a lot of them
solely talk to me
bc of the name im associated w
even if its sit
shit
they are still the biggest agency
[...]
everyday for growth or for things to change for the better
[Twisty] (09/23/2024 9:48 PM):
i mean my pl
altho that channels dead too
there is nothing i can do to grow on it
pplw ill not support the company
no matter what
thats not my fault
its just hwo ti is
Frank (09/23/2024 9:48 PM):
Things can change
[Twisty] (09/23/2024 9:49 PM):
they wont
Frank (09/23/2024 9:49 PM):
It's not guaranteed
But they can
[Twisty] (09/23/2024 9:49 PM):
they wont
a lot of the fans who would be interested in me
are not willing to watch the company
my target audience are all antis pretty much
and the company
will not do anything to suppor tus
Frank (09/23/2024 9:52 PM):
Okay
Let’s say you are completely right.
[...]
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:17 PM):
not for model
however
K626 (10/28/2024 6:17 PM):
The person you sent me before was lile 4k
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:17 PM):
my firend spent
30k on his
K626 (10/28/2024 6:18 PM):
Wtfff
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:18 PM):
im not that dumb
K626 (10/28/2024 6:18 PM):
Does it look nice??
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:18 PM):
its kyrio
im in game or id send
my model is like
2300
for art
prob 6k total
K626 (10/28/2024 6:19 PM):
It looks smooth but 30k is fucking insane
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:19 PM):
[...]
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:33 PM):
ok im out of game
basically
things are doomed
the small issues pile up & there are no changes
everytime someone leaves that is like
another hit
that drags reputation down
i only even joined in the first place cuz like
i wanted to try and earn money
so i could take care of my wife
and give her what she deserved
but obviously that didn't work out
it just sucks cuz like
i cant play the games i want to play
i cant sing songs
or do covers
lowkey everytime u mention
class of 09
i get tilted LMAO
cuz that is something i wanted to do even before you asked
but its just not possible
K626 (10/28/2024 6:35 PM):
Wife?
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:35 PM):
shiinos
shiinoa
K626 (10/28/2024 6:35 PM):
And we’ve been through this, I know now
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:35 PM):
i dont think we collabed when you were around
i just mena
K626 (10/28/2024 6:36 PM):
Idk who that is
Oh
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:36 PM):
ive made up my mind
and this is like why
https://www.youtube.com/@cutestshiinoa
[YouTube
Shiinoa Ch.
Let me cut your heart out [] Hello! I am Shiinoa, an aspiring artist and VTuber! I love cute girls and drawing[]
Social Media
[] Twitter: https://x.com/
[...]
u/shiinoa/wishlist []
[] Ko-fi: ht...]
her
if i say wife this is prob who im referring to
even tho i call every girl my wife
K626 (10/28/2024 6:38 PM):
Oh but support her? Im confused
Are you not both working
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:38 PM):
shes in school
support her
vtuberwise
K626 (10/28/2024 6:38 PM):
Ohhhh
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:38 PM):
like i want to help her
w streaming and stuff
K626 (10/28/2024 6:38 PM):
I get you (edited)
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:38 PM):
idk if i talked about it in detail that much
but she is the girl that i met in a company
and we continously got fucked over by companies
so i feel bad
K626 (10/28/2024 6:39 PM):
[...]
K626 (10/28/2024 6:43 PM):
This a new design? Or concept?
Did you guys plan to do like a duo thing or something? Like I know I said I get it, but tbh im confused what the goal is
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:44 PM):
yeah like duo
literally just
imagine debuting in a wave in a company
like that but just two
pretty much
K626 (10/28/2024 6:45 PM):
Oh I thought you were gonna be like the dog girls that squid watches
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:45 PM):
oh
no
not same channel
just two designs that like
match eachother
K626 (10/28/2024 6:45 PM):
That’s cute
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:45 PM):
cuz we like the lore aspect
and want to do things involving it
K626 (10/28/2024 6:46 PM):
Im guessing t his has been a dream for a while?
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:46 PM):
literally since we met
everytime she convinced me to join a dogshit company
i was like
its okay
ill suffer thru
lmao
K626 (10/28/2024 6:47 PM):
Well im glad you’re still working towards it atleast
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:47 PM):
ya when i say give up
K626 (10/28/2024 6:47 PM):
That’s all that really matters
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:47 PM):
i dint mean like
entirely
i just
its not fair to my community
or me honestly
to stay how it is
i wanted it to workout so bad
but they just arent taking our needs seriously
there is a concert thing announced today
her wave didnt get to join
it makes me so sad
bc
japanese waves after her joined
they just dont care about english streamers
K626 (10/28/2024 6:49 PM):
I can’t claim to understand, but I hope that you eventually get out of this mesd
The stuff you told me about your coworker still pisses me off to this day
Hasn’t left my mind
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:49 PM):
ya thats another issue
i try to just
ignore it
cuz theres nothing i can do
K626 (10/28/2024 6:50 PM):
Im just happy you have a real friend in shi
Like having someone you trust is important
And she’s been through all the same problems you have
Not to be weird
But when you told me
I looked up who it was
And like instantly saw his face
Just annoyed me more tbh
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:52 PM):
ya
thats why i blocked him
K626 (10/28/2024 6:52 PM):
Like idk where someone gets off acting like that?
Especially since you were only there for like what
A month
Fucking creep man
Probably doesn’t understand jokes or something
Or maybe he’s just really a weirdo
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:54 PM):
no
hes just
a manipulative weirdo
K626 (10/28/2024 6:54 PM):
It just surprised me because I expected him to look different i guess ? (edited)
He’s just your average asian league player
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:54 PM):
oh like irlk
idk what he looks like
K626 (10/28/2024 6:55 PM):
Yeah
Bro
He’s just some asian guy
I was shocked
Like i found it
And i cant creep for my life [crying face emoji]
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:55 PM):
ya
p much
everyone is doxxed
or has stuff up
K626 (10/28/2024 6:56 PM):
Is that why you didn’t care when I asked about personal stuff?
Geez
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:56 PM):
well my stuff isnt
but
idrc in general
K626 (10/28/2024 6:57 PM):
You should
Youve got creeps
Like me
Im nobody
Doesn’t matter
You
Somebody on the internet
People will look and care
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 6:59 PM):
yeah maybe
but some stuff doesnt matter
K626 (10/28/2024 6:59 PM):
Like your life being known? Id think you’d care more tbh
[Twisty] (10/28/2024 7:00 PM):
its not like im doxxing myself rlly
[...]
[Frank, cont'd]:
But as you can imagine, it’s kind of a bad time to ask
Considering I bought all those subs for her [crying eyes emoji]
So if we figure something out, you might have to give me a week or so
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 1:15 PM):
well i asked solely bc u said anything and i felt like being ridiculous
i dont think its very like
serious yanno
K626 (10/29/2024 1:28 PM):
Hmmm
If you say so
But I don’t mind, you offered to pay me back most of my friends don’t even bring that up lol (edited)
Just lmk, i wasn’t joking when I said id help in the mallow
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 3:56 PM):
gm fr
i wnet back to bed
i just think like

  1. if i borrow money i always pay back my friends but like this is something i can’t unstantly guarantee cuz its very dependent on luck
  2. its lowkey evil to make you pay when your oshi is going to die over it
  3. are you genuinely like financially okay

[...]
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:19 PM):
idk if its the like
model you like
or
like what do you like about her
K626 (10/29/2024 4:19 PM):
Which one?
Your new one is cute too tbh
Oh im dumb
We’ve been through this but i know your not compliment baiting [crying eyes eomji]
She’s fun when she’s solo just talking to herself
The model is cute tbh
She cares almost a bit too much
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:21 PM):
speaking honestly
K626 (10/29/2024 4:21 PM):
She is very emotional and open
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:21 PM):
it will probably be the same
in new life
except
less collabs
cuz honestly
K626 (10/29/2024 4:21 PM):
Can i be honest?
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:21 PM):
she is too depressed to like solo stream rn
yeah
K626 (10/29/2024 4:21 PM):
I hate the collabs
I figured
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:21 PM):
i mean
me too
my energy is perma gone
i dont really like talking to people
K626 (10/29/2024 4:21 PM):
Kinda knew that
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:21 PM):
its hard to schedule
and my sleeps always fucked up
but if im alone on stream
i just feel like im gunna cry
K626 (10/29/2024 4:22 PM):
But why?
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:22 PM):
idk
just everything
K626 (10/29/2024 4:22 PM):
Youve said this before
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:22 PM):
it feels like
stuff keeps getting worse
its like
constant hits thru my heart
i just dont feel appreciated
not by you guys
but
its like
K626 (10/29/2024 4:23 PM):
I know
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:23 PM):
im here
and
i get a lot of shit for being here right
but the tradeoff is supposed to be support
which i get none of
all of my friends in smaller companies
get tons of money
events
etc.
salary
K626 (10/29/2024 4:24 PM):
Do you still think you could never join a small company after this?
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:24 PM):
people are quitting left and right
i wouldnt
its not worth it
like
theyre not exactly
happy either
there are problems everywhere
but
i would say they are worse here
K626 (10/29/2024 4:25 PM):
I hope it ends soon then honestly
Ill miss her
Shes my first and last
But it’s pretty clear shes sad
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:25 PM):
stfu
dont say last
she will come back better smh
K626 (10/29/2024 4:25 PM):
Hmmm
We’ll see
It’s kind of crazy to hear all of this because I feel like twitter recommends me a new vtuber everyday
Like there are so many
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:27 PM):
ive noticed lately
a lot of ppl
are just
done w companies
even if they pay well
it always sucks not having 100% creative control
K626 (10/29/2024 4:27 PM):
I can imagine
Do you think people will stick around after?
Like not just fans
But like
People she’s hung out with
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:29 PM):
id say probably
i know that
close friends will
thats all that matters
K626 (10/29/2024 4:29 PM):
Yeah im sure the girls will
True
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:29 PM):
tbh
the only ppl i talk to
are like
hex
sweaty
karuva
relia
K626 (10/29/2024 4:30 PM):
I mean it’s sweet they all keep up with you
I hope they hand out more when things are different
Same for fans
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:32 PM):
i think
the fans dont matter
obviously i hope they do
but
corpo fans prefer like
K626 (10/29/2024 4:32 PM):
:/
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:32 PM):
content inside the box
so its not really
expected for them all to follow
so i try not to like
get upset if anyone doesnt want to keep up
bc
i know it wont be exaclty the same
K626 (10/29/2024 4:33 PM):
Of course not but id still be a little sad
I didn’t realize at the time that everyone watches someone else
Was kind of surreal finding out when i was in the disc
So i guess you’re probably right
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:34 PM):
i think that
as an indie like
i am confident in my marketing skills
K626 (10/29/2024 4:34 PM):
They probably just support the company over anything
[Re: @K626 I didn’t realize at the time that everyone watches someone else]
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:34 PM):
this was kind of a shock to me too
bc
ive never experienced it
usually i only had like
very dedicated fans
who didnt watch others rlly
[Re: [Twisty] i am confident in my marketing skills]
K626 (10/29/2024 4:34 PM):
And what are those?? Do tell [emoji]
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:35 PM):
just like
general promotion etc.
like i wouldnt ask forth emoney
if i didnt think i could make it back
if you want to see the plan i have i can send you when ifinish
[...]
[Frank, cont'd]:
Btw were you actually big on your old streams? Like the yuno one you sent?
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:41 PM):
no
i barely streamed
i mainly streamed on pomf
to like 100 viewers
which tbf for the website was big
i was like well know/the biggest streamer there
but
t
like actually big no
it its possible i'd prefer https://throne.com/deluludeliria/item/f17ec8e4-dbf3-47b8-bf04-05a2803322ef
[Contribute to lulu's [heart]
Support lulu with a gift contribution on their Throne Wishlist
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just cuz
every artist is different
and the comm process is really long and annoying
[...]
[Re: [Twisty] i mainly streamed on pomf]
K626 (10/29/2024 4:42 PM):
Pomf?
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:42 PM):
its basically twitch for lolis
K626 (10/29/2024 4:42 PM):
That weird ass website?
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:42 PM):
yeah
i ltierally
K626 (10/29/2024 4:42 PM):
Wft
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:42 PM):
could not click on any other streams btw
theyre all
disgusting
its like
diaper furry shit
K626 (10/29/2024 4:43 PM):
Isnt that where the vrchat freaks go
I know
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:43 PM):
thats what i was
i started on twitch
but ppl kept
getting naked
/screaming n wrod
and i was like
im fucked
and someone suggested it
K626 (10/29/2024 4:44 PM):
I guess throne works too
It’s for you and your friend? Like you guys are buying together?
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:45 PM):
yeah
but
its very skewed
cuz shes covering like
her model etc.
but things like
K626 (10/29/2024 4:46 PM):
Can you give like a general amount for each thing?
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 4:46 PM):
yeah
K626 (10/29/2024 4:46 PM):
[...]
K626 (10/29/2024 5:51 PM):
Not to get deep but do you think this will be your career for the long haul?
Like do you see the playing games/discord/creeps/streaming/staying inside being your life in like 5 or even 3 years?
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 6:01 PM):
discord wont stay
i intend to stream until i die tho
i dont trust my wife with discord
she will get groomed
same w staying inside
even when i wasnt like
as mentally ill
i just didnt rlly enjoy going outside
if its to like
hang out w friends/go shopping/go to concerts etc.
i dont mind
but like
a stroll through the park
no way
K626 (10/29/2024 6:04 PM):
Is discord that bad? I only use it for friends
Yours and the fan one were the only times I ever interacted in one
[Re: [Twisty] hang out w friends/go shopping/go to concerts etc.]
[...]
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 7:48 PM):
someone is sending me
marshmallows
and its
24 of them
max limit
black ops lore
my email is blowing up
[crying eyes emoji]
K626 (10/29/2024 7:48 PM):
Based tbh
Also that’s a sign
Play zombies
The people have spoken
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 7:51 PM):
i want to play
but its a zatsu game
K626 (10/29/2024 7:51 PM):
And?
What’s the problem?
Bro I wish online wasn’t fucking cooked
I want to do the easter eggs
Get a ps5
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 7:53 PM):
no
[...]
K626 [time unclear]:
First person I thought of when I saw it lol
You playing league?
Or working ?
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 9:58 PM):
working
planning stuff w my wife while i get work done
K626 (10/29/2024 9:58 PM):
oooo
More plans? [looking eyes emoji]
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 10:00 PM):
just like
figuring out what we want to do
K626 (10/29/2024 10:01 PM):
I get that
Hope the brainstorming goes well
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 10:18 PM):
bro
i stg
it is so hard
to force myself to stream
and not be depressed
[screenshot of comment, reading:
Rosemi what are your thoughts on The Knicks trading for Big Purr, do you think this was a good move in the long run?]
when ppl say stuff liket his
[...]
K626 (10/29/2024 10:20 PM):
Screams slade and im sure he didn’t mean anything negative
But i get your point
I guess maybe corporate audiences just aren’t for you.
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 10:21 PM):
they literally
just
hate me
there is no other explanation
K626 (10/29/2024 10:21 PM):
If corporate audiences are eveb a thing
But like
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 10:21 PM):
rosemies fans would never do that shit to her
K626 (10/29/2024 10:21 PM):
Why?
What’s there to hate?
I’ve never watched her but idk I guess maybe I just don’t understand the point of the message
Like it’s definitely rude
But I assume they’re just poking fun at her
Maybe im too optimistic (edited)
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 10:23 PM):
no
they literally just
want her to kill herself
the entire chat
is
rosemi memes
K626 (10/29/2024 10:24 PM):
Seriously? Recently?
I really wouldn’t know, but she is really popular right? (edited)
Like they showed me a vid once but I didn’t really get it
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 10:25 PM):
its basically
blue rosemi
similar designs
K626 (10/29/2024 10:25 PM):
From regulars???
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 10:26 PM):
yeah
litearlly spamming
rosemi memes
since the star
t
you can see it
when rosemi streams
no one watches me
the overlap is that severe
K626 (10/29/2024 10:26 PM):
That aside I get why it’s upsetting. Is there no way to like bring it up to them?
And I’m sorry, I’ve never noticed tbh I didn’t hear about rosemi until months after I started watching her
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 10:27 PM):
they dc
K626 (10/29/2024 10:27 PM):
They should
They’re watching her
She has feelings
She’s her own person
Like why not stop to think how she feels
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 10:28 PM):
cuz ur not a person
ur anime
K626 (10/29/2024 10:30 PM):
I get that but like
She should be allowed to say something
She’d have to be super safe with her words
But
Id like to think people might actually understand
Her pov
[Twisty] (10/29/2024 10:33 PM):
they dont care
theres no point
its just malicious
K626 (10/29/2024 10:33 PM):
I guess I just don’t understand
Especially since it’s from regulars
Depressing
--October 30, 2024
K626 (10/30/2024 12:03 AM):
Seemed like everything was fine today at least
Im glad
Unless i missed something in the past hour
[Twisty] (10/30/2024 12:04 AM):
forme its just
hard to like
stream long
or like
idk
psych myself up to start streaming
K626 (10/30/2024 12:12 AM):
I understand
Youve got a lot going on
Not to mention youre still young as hell
Like I show I shit on you
But working a corporate job at your age is a lot
Even if it isn’t the stereotypical kind
[Twisty] (10/30/2024 12:33 AM):
thank you
i appreciate it
K626 (10/30/2024 4:12 AM):
Of course
Sorry, slept
And I want to say something, but it’s depressing, so I’ll say it later
Hope league or whatever you ended up doing was chill
[Twisty] (10/30/2024 5:12 AM):
i slept
u can be depressing idm
K626 (10/30/2024 7:57 AM):
Eeped again lol
And I changed my mind, there’s already enough sadness in this chat for both of us
Someone’s gotta be the happy one
https://x.com/sho_oe4&s=21
[shou (@sho_oe4) on X
Skeb->https://t/.cp/B3kljveSpt
Twitter]
You probably already know them but idk I thought you might like their style
[Twisty] (10/30/2024 8:10 AM):
its fine
if youre going through stuff
we're friends
[heart reaction]
i wanna support you too
youre always here when im ranting
theyre cute
[...]
[Twisty] (10/30/2024 4:02 PM):
just wats his like
yt
Idiot (10/30/2024 4:02 PM):
Gotta look i dont really know him
https://youtube.com/@falseeyed?si=WexfHP2eaP8fQjaT
[YouTube
FalseEyeD
Official YouTube Channel of "Things Vtubers Say"]
He was the first person that popped up
[Twisty] (10/30/2024 4:03 PM):
ya ur fucked
Idiot (10/30/2024 4:03 PM):
No way
How?
???
[Twisty] (10/30/2024 4:04 PM):
high chance of her death
Idiot (10/30/2024 4:04 PM):
No fucking wya
[Twisty] (10/30/2024 4:04 PM):
u chose the biggest grifter possible
Idiot (10/30/2024 4:04 PM):
Grifter????!
[...]
K626 (10/30/2024 4:48 PM):
I thought they dont fucking fire people???
Like i was under the assumption it literally can’t happen
[Twisty] (10/30/2024 4:50 PM):
if u do something bad enough
K626 (10/30/2024 4:50 PM):
But you are unironically a victim
Fuck them
You did nothing wrong
At all
Why are we even scared?
They treat you like shit
Some creep harrases you
[Twisty] (10/30/2024 4:51 PM):
well i dont really care
but
K626 (10/30/2024 4:51 PM):
You get fired
???
Make that make sense
[Twisty] (10/30/2024 4:51 PM):
there is a chance
she dies
so
K626 (10/30/2024 4:51 PM):
Chance is better than what you said before
I just don’t know how anyone could view you negatively after hearing this
[Twisty] (10/30/2024 4:52 PM):
it doesnt matter
K626 (10/30/2024 4:52 PM):
Like you actually did nothing wrong
[Twisty] (10/30/2024 4:52 PM):
i did leak stuff
K626 (10/30/2024 4:52 PM):
Again
[Twisty] (10/30/2024 4:52 PM):
so i did do something wrong
which is fireable
K626 (10/30/2024 4:52 PM):
Wrong?? To admit you were harassed??
In what world is that wrong?
To the company i get
But they have to know thatw ill make them look horrible
[Twisty] (10/30/2024 4:53 PM):
they dotn really care
K626 (10/30/2024 4:53 PM):
They will look fucking soulless
[Twisty] (10/30/2024 4:53 PM):
thats why its 50/50
they either ignore it
fire me
K626 (10/30/2024 4:53 PM):
Fuck
[Twisty] (10/30/2024 4:53 PM):
and double down (edited)
or fire him
K626 (10/30/2024 4:53 PM):
Double down??
[Twisty] (10/30/2024 4:53 PM):
(unlikely)
K626 (10/30/2024 4:53 PM):
Fire him would happen in a perfect world
Praying for that
He fucking deserves it (edited)
[Twisty] (10/30/2024 4:54 PM):
it wont happen
K626 (10/30/2024 4:55 PM):
But firing her is likely??
In what world?
How will peopel react to that?
“Yeah we fired the poor girl that got harassed by one of our other talents”
Really great look for a company
I dont want her to go
Not yet man
I refuse to believe the worse will happen
[Twisty] (10/30/2024 5:50 PM):
idk
i just think
be prepared for worst
[...]
[Twisty] (11/05/2024 8:05 PM):
i didnt until i woke up
K626 (11/05/2024 8:05 PM):
Just now??
[Twisty] (11/05/2024 8:05 PM):
like
an hr ago maybe
K626 (11/05/2024 8:05 PM):
Ohh
[Twisty] (11/05/2024 8:05 PM):
idk if you're aware btw
or if itmatters cuz
not ur oshi/bad times for u
but i have been streaming on alt sometimes
K626 (11/05/2024 8:06 PM):
Alt?
I don’t creep so I know 0 about what you do
Besides what you tell me
And I don’t have the others to tell me anymore so
[Twisty] (11/05/2024 8:09 PM):
yeah i just wasnt sure if u were like even remotely aware cuz
idk apparently like pings or something on yt
K626 (11/05/2024 8:10 PM):
Huh? Pings?
[...]
[Twisty] (11/05/2024 8:15 PM):
idk
i cant explain it
cuz it doesnt make sense to me either
K626 (11/05/2024 8:15 PM):
??????
Okau, where are you streaming?
You’re not making sense
Oh
The youtube channel ciel sent?
And eww youre actually playing val wtf
That’s worse than league
How did the mfs already know you were streaming??? [crying eyes emoji]
Why am I always out of the loop
[Twisty] (11/05/2024 8:21 PM):
i just sent in server
but its also a lot of like
old fans
K626 (11/05/2024 8:22 PM):
And I get told 10 hours later [sad face emoji]
Might end it all tonight
[Twisty] (11/05/2024 8:23 PM):
LMAO
u were asleep
[...]
[Re: [Twisty] not ur oshi/bad times for u]
K626 (11/05/2024 8:28 PM):
Btw idk if it’s cheating because like im just watching a friend stream tbh
Not like ur my oshi [crying face emoji]
[Re: @K626 Can you stream cuck simulator ?]
[Twisty] (11/05/2024 8:45 PM):
LMAO
K626 (11/05/2024 8:46 PM):
That’s a yes, right?
surely
[Twisty] (11/05/2024 8:46 PM):
a myahaps
K626 (11/05/2024 8:46 PM):
Delores :((
Told me about the stream late
Ignores me
Makes fun of me
And now this?
[Twisty] (11/05/2024 8:49 PM):
i did not make fun of you smh
K626 (11/05/2024 8:49 PM):
But the rest are true
Terrible human
Tbh
[Twisty] (11/05/2024 8:50 PM):
fake
im a good human
for not wanting to disturb your rest
K626 (11/05/2024 8:51 PM):
You are insane if you think discord notifications actually go off on anything i own
My phone is permanently dnd and my pc has been off recently because ive been sick
Speaking of
Devour one of these days?
[Re: [Twisty] for not wanting to disturb your rest]
K626 (11/05/2024 8:54 PM):
Also you literally sent me the pv email when I was napping wtf liar omg [two crying eyes emoji]
[Twisty] (11/05/2024 8:54 PM):
yeah im down
[heart reaction]
ya cuz i forgot
or sorry
i would forget*
[...]
[Twisty] (11/06/2024 8:05 AM):
the company
will know its me
K626 (11/06/2024 8:06 AM):
I just don’t get why this has to be your fault
Like i understand
But you did nothing wrong
This wouldnt have happened
If not for him
And them
[Twisty] (11/06/2024 8:06 AM):
i broke nda
K626 (11/06/2024 8:07 AM):
Again, can the really be proven?? (edited)
Like if they had to give a real reason for termination
There has to be real proof right??
Besides the words of some guy on yourube
Like okay people believing because of hate is one thing
But being terminated from a job
Over a rumor
Is a completely different rhing
[Twisty] (11/06/2024 8:09 AM):
they can prove it
its very like
obvious
[...]
K626 (11/07/2024 7:32 AM):
Not to mention caffeine and league before bed definitely doesn’t help
[Twisty] (11/07/2024 8:08 AM):
i dont really drink caffeine
K626 (11/07/2024 8:09 AM):
Hmm then I guess maybe try a mix of things? Like the masks and magnesium? Or a low dose of melatonin like 1mg
I would tell you no league before bed but im not your mom [crying face emoji]
Besides that though, how have you been feeling after streaming as yourself?
I know you said you always planned to, but tbh I was surprised when you told me about it the other day
[Twisty] (11/07/2024 8:18 AM):
honestly
it makes me realize
that i dont hate streaming
like i dont feel like im gunna cry
[heart reaction]
K626 (11/07/2024 9:02 AM):
Im happy to hear that
Hearing you vent as much as you have made me start thinking that too if im being honest
But im glad that’s not the case. Like i remember you telling me you’d rather die than get a real job
So Im glab that you still enjoy it
[...]


Discord logs between "Idiot" (Frank) and Ciel:

[...]
Ciel (09/12/2024 7:04 PM):
NHK YOU FUCK HERE. THIS IS HER ACCOUNT BEFORE SHE JOIINED NIJISANJI. IF YOU WANT TO SUPPORT HER BUY HER SHIT HERE.

https://x.com/deluluxdeliria
https://throne.com/deluludeliria
Also, you can't mention this in the Discord it's bannable.
Don't mention it to her in Marshmallows either. It's possible her manager sees them and she would be in trouble. Probably fired. (edited)
Idiot (09/12/2024 7:06 PM):
[redacted text]
AND IS THIS SOME WEIRD TROLL? LOL
Ciel (09/12/2024 7:07 PM):
No. I just bough her some shit the other day.
Idiot (09/12/2024 7:07 PM):
-_- THAT DOESNT MEAN ITS HER SEAL LOL
Ciel (09/12/2024 7:08 PM):
No it is. Colonel follows. King follows. Everyone follows tbh.
I researchwd it. I know.
Idiot (09/12/2024 7:08 PM):
-_- well im skeptical
gonna find a way to ask her
idk how yet
[...]
Ciel (09/12/2024 7:09 PM):
Okay you can try. I don't know how you'll do it.
https://www.youtube.com/@DELULUDELIRIA
[YouTube DELULU[heart]DELIRIA - Inactive]
But you can also listen.
Same voice.
Ciel (09/12/2024 7:35 PM):
She said just ask
Do it straight up
[A screenshot of YouTube stream comments, reading:
7:34 twisty_amanozako: tell frank kun
7:34 twisty_amanozako: to just ask]
Idiot (09/12/2024 7:50 PM):
Goddamnit
Just saw this
Why do i have to be the idiot to ask ?
Worst case scenario I shouldn’t have asked
Best case i look like an idiot
Lol
Ciel (09/12/2024 7:51 PM):
Well we all know
Wait can you join
VC
Idiot (09/12/2024 7:51 PM):
[...]
Ciel (09/12/2024 8:24 PM):
Bro what did you ask omg
K626 (09/12/2024 8:25 PM):
Idk i made a really roundabout way of asking tbh
Like i wrote layers on layers
But i guess she understood?
Im not in chat rn so idk
Ciel (09/12/2024 8:25 PM):
Hmmm okay.
[Screenshot of YouTube live chat locks, reading:
8:26 twisty_amanozako: there are a lot of things i can't really discuss
8:26 pedreivax: Makes sense
8:26 twisty_amanozako: but i think u guys
8:26 twisty_amanozako: need to be smater
8:26 twisty_amanozako: w how u go about things
8:26 twisty_amanozako: theres nothing i can really say
8:26 twisty_amanozako: explain things properly to frank ig]
K626 (09/12/2024 8:28 PM):
Okay, well i believe you now
Ciel (09/12/2024 8:28 PM):
Okay!
Good!
[...]
Ciel (09/14/2024 9:39 PM):
I kind of touched on this before in our DMs but there are generally two types of VTubers. Ones that work for a company and ones that are independent. Twisty works for the company Nijisanji. To work under any company as a VTuber you need to go through an audition process. The higher profile the company the more they expect from you so it is almost always true that you need prior streaming experience to pass auditions. Which means almost every company VTubers has had a previous persona or VTuber identity that they streamed as before their current one. So for Twisty that is Lulu. And it goes against her contract for her to mention that Twisty was Lulu and Lulu is now Twisty. She would 100% have her contract terminated and Twisty would be forced to stop streaming as Twisty.
Now I don't want to confuse you even more but Twisty is also a unusual case because she has had multiple previous personas. Lulu is just the most recent one before joining Nijisanji. And in fact she never really streamed as Lulu she only made YouTube videos because her model was in the process of being completed but was not done yet. She ended up applying to Nijisanji with one of her prior models and getting accepted before the Lulu model got finished. We're not 100% sure what the Nijisanji contract says but it is typical for these company contracts to stipulate that you cannot stream as another persona while being employed by them so she is stuck as Twisty for the time being. And as you saw a couple days ago it seems that part of joining the company is essentially a debt that is incurred for something that I'm not sure of tbh. But however much it is the company will be taking a large portion of the profits she earns until it's paid off. This is on top of the portion they already take as part of the regular split for their workers. So she isn't earning very much atm.
Usually that isn't a problem because the notoriety of the company can carry a lot of talent to decent/good numbers to eventually pay it back sooner rather than later. But Nijisanji recently has taken a hit in their credibility so not a lot of people like them right now and are actively hating/avoiding the company.
I'm going to try to sleep before the stream but if you have anymore questions feel free to ask.
K626 (different php, but presumably "Idiot" and Frank) (09/14/2024 10:21 PM):
huh
[...]


Discord logs between Frank and FalseEyeD:

[...]
Frank (10/01/2024 10:17 PM):
Hi, sorry if I don’t respond to your messages immediately, if you end up sending anything. It’s late where I’m at.
FalseEyeD (10/01/2024 10:26 PM):
It’s also late here! Thank you for reaching out. When you have time this week, would you like to jump on a call, or would you just prefer text for now?
Frank (10/01/2024 10:31 PM):
Either is fine with me. Let me know what day/time you’re free.
FalseEyeD (10/01/2024 10:56 PM):
The soonest would be for 1 hour starting at Wednesday, October 2, 2024 2:30 PM, or anytime longer after Wednesday, October 2, 2024 8:00 PM
Frank (10/01/2024 11:01 PM):
8 is fine. Enjoy your night!
[thumbs-up reaction]
--October 2, 2024--
FalseEyeD (10/02/2024 8:05 PM):
Hello again, just reaching out to see if you are available to talk!
Frank (10/02/2024 8:05 PM):
Sure, whenever you’re ready.
FalseEyeD (10/02/2024 8:06 PM):
OK, calling
[Call Ended
an hour--10/02/2024 8:06 PM]
--October 30, 2024--
Frank (10/30/2024 12:50 PM):
Hey, I don’t know if you still intend to cover thus, but I just wanted to reiterate that I would appreciate if you kept everyone involved anonymous if you do. At the end of the day I feel this girl is more of a victim than anything. And while I want these issues to be heard, I really don’t want her to go through anything bad because of this going public. Thank you for your time and for listening before.
FalseEyeD (10/30/2024 12:53 PM):
To be 100% open and honest, I am leaning toward keeping her anonymous
and angling more on Aster, [...]
[...]
[Frank, cont'd]:
appreciate you keeping her position and health in mind, and I hope you do keep her anonymous.
FalseEyeD (10/30/2024 1:17 PM):
Lining up the video to be released around the 7th of November, thanks for your patience!
[thumbs-up reaction]
Frank (10/30/2024 4:17 PM):
Hey, i’m sorry to come back to this again, but is there anyway you can leave the fact that this is in between coworkers out? I’m genuinely worried the girl might get fired, and that’s the last thing I want to happen to her after she’s been through so much. If anything can you claim this information is from an independent source? He has done the same thing with many other indie talents to my knowledge.
I’m afraid that it being known that’s between coworkers will defeat the purpose of it being anonymous
[...]
Idiot (11/18/2024 3:35 AM):
Hey, I appreciate you telling Twisty about the emails because I honestly forgot about them and don’t have access to it, since it was a burner email. She deserved to know the whole story, even if she ended up confirming that all those screenshots really were her in the process. I don’t appreciate you claiming it felt like I wanted you to make an “expose” when I literally said the opposite, but I don’t blame you for feeling that way considering all the evidence I gave you. Anyway, the reason I’m contacting you this time is to let you know that the last few messages I sent were on her behalf and not entirely how I felt. At this point, I really could not care less about any of this. Do whatever you want with the evidence. She claimed you were a grifter, and to be honest I don’t know the first thing about you so maybe she’s right, but you seemed mature and thoughtful enough to me when we talked. My point is, do what you want with what I’ve given you. Delete it, save it, use it, I am just so tired of all this. We won’t be communicating again, but I’d like to thank you for even listening in the first place. Good luck with your career and everything, genuinely.
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Other images:
A voice chat on Discord, with "league" in the title, contains:
Ciel
Frank
lulu
pedreiva


The first messages between [Twisty] and pedreiva:

[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:01 AM):

league of legends
pedreiva (09/19/2024 2:01 AM):
I was just about to do my Star Rail dailies....
[Twisty] (09/19/2024 2:01 AM):
u have 10m


Twisty Amanozako [oshi mark] NIJISANJI EN @TwistyAmanozako:
this is so cute frank [three emoji] spiritomaito eeping peacefully [emoji] thank you for comming this!!
[This is a response to a post by TwisterFan @FanOfTwister, with four images of Twisty.


Throne for lulu @deluludeliria
Leaderboard: 1, colonelcuddl ($5,683.17); 2, CL ($1,060.88); 3, Meghan ($866.28)
Recent Gifters: CL; kinghonj; colonelcuddl; CL; Anonymous


lulu @deluluxdeliria
together we scream with our full chests: WE HATE ASTER ARCADIA!!!!


A screenshot from her stream, showing her League of Legends account name to be Zoe Lover 69.
Some screenshots of League of Legends match results, including Zoe Lover 69.
Two videos from streams.

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Pub: 26 Nov 2024 02:49 UTC

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