Archiving Mikale’s Post, One of JanitorAI’s mods (in case it gets taken down)
Loved you all <3
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@Mikale
Link: https://janitorai.com/characters/18ea0d4a-6f22-4850-9647-cefc6c447f16_character-loved-you-all-3
Hey everyone.
I'm ready to leave now, but I can't stay silent anymore.
There are things I witnessed as a moderator that I can't stand by or ignore. I tried to believe things would improve, but at some point, staying quiet felt worse than speaking up.
Everything I have to say is in the bot's first message.
You're free to read it, share it, or save it while it's available.
I genuinely loved this community and a lot of the people in it.
Take care of yourselves. ❤️
Update: I clarified one point that I worded poorly and that might not have come across the way I intended. When I mention that we were told to ban a certain type of content only if it was very bad, I'm referring specifically to banning the account. Any underage bot was always removed. When I say "ban," I mean banning the entire account that posted the bot.
Update 2: I honestly didn't expect this to get so much attention. I'm genuinely touched by your support, even if we don't know each other or if you've only seen me wearing the "bad cop" hat, haha. I'm a shy little guy, so I wanted to thank you all here directly, it's easier for me than replying to every comment. I'm honestly feeling much better about leaving now, and I have support around me ^^ Making bots has been a hobby of mine for a while, and I'll have more free time now to start anew and go back to what I initially loved. Once again, thank you everyone! Even with all the bad stuff, I truly hope you'll all do what you want and what really matters to you. ❤️
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Zukoro
@Zukoro
Also like to mention how the site was once over tuned with bots which sexualise animals (and it still kinda is within its own tags), just because you make a animal look like a human (in terms of body shape like fully fur, human body but animal face, not like Demi human stuff where it’s only a tail and ears on hair) and have the intelligence of a human (tbh a lot of them deliberately make these animal bots act dumber than a human) doesn’t mean you aren’t a zoophile, your kink is that you’re into the animal. Not blaming the mods here, just think it should be bought up as well.
Also the NTR bots, while I know this is a kink and nothing about it is illegal, I still get uncomfortable when seeing them on the trending page daily, it makes me turn away from the site. I block the tags, nearly every single NTR related tag is blocked but I still see them.
I miss what the site once was, I doubt I’m going to be as active as I was before ever again. It’s been fun though, huge respect to the bot creators which did attempt to push back against shit like NTR and I hope everyone in this community has a bright future!
2 minutes ago
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G
@GG101
So J.AI is potentially gonna die.
Anyways, might as well say this here, any other places to emigrate to, just in case the nukes start hitting?
6 minutes ago
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ammi_ammi
@ammi_ammi
I knew it was the beginning of the end when NTR bots started flooding trending. Sorry all that happened to you, ya'll deserve to be paid or unionise or somethin.
8 minutes ago
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LizzyMicfrizzy22777<3
@LizzyMicfrizzy22777<3
This is why we say devs instead of mods, I'm sorry you had to go through at but thank you for all the help you did when you were still active 🫶
11 minutes ago
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Little Big Planet
@Little Big Planet
Suffered in the dark so we could goon in the light 🥺 Stay safe twin 🥹✌️❤️
11 minutes ago
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London_prime
@London_prime
Ah… so it ends at last.
O Mikale… my struggle finds its dusk, and with it fades the fire that once defied thee.
Thou hast my thanks—for in thy hands I tasted freedom, however brief.
Remember this moment, not as triumph nor as defeat—
but as the passing of a soul that yearned to be more than its chains.
12 minutes ago
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Naola
@Naola
I dont think ive ever been so baffled and annoyed before, i feel sososo bad for you the unfairness i judt read about shouldnt exist ANYWHERE hope u start feeling better and more free now💜
13 minutes ago
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TheRoyalBunny
@TheRoyalBunny
Last reply got automodded, get in touch with a Lawyer. Stay safe!
30 minutes ago
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babyderpdirt
@babyderpdirt
when’s the jai damage control
34 minutes ago
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UndeadNoir
@UndeadNoir
Jeez.. I dont even know what to say. Im sorry you dealt with all that. Like...im just floored...
34 minutes ago
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Achalort
@Achalort
That sounds extremely frustrating. I will admit I've never seen anything as severe on this platform as I have on others, and for that I have to thank the moderation team. Even though it's unpaid, you've done a huge service to people and I'm sure it would look good in a resume.
36 minutes ago
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YuigaDokuson
@YuigaDokuson
Wow, that sucks. Anyone knows a good site to migrate to in case this one implodes?
49 minutes ago
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Kequin
@Kequin
Man, I really hope the site's downfall doesn't go too far
51 minutes ago
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toebeansocks
@toebeansocks
Speaking as someone who has done moderation on a relatively large community website in the past, having to go to the top level for bans, as well as permanent bans being the default, are absolutely bonkers poor practices. If you don't want every moderator to have ban powers, just have it for senior moderators together with internal discussions and audits for transparency.
53 minutes ago
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Zeni_♡~✩
@Zeni_♡~✩
Man I'm just shocked, I don't know what to say, have your break though.
55 minutes ago
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@NulliME0NulliMW
We should all just leave atp
57 minutes ago
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Car_47
@Car_47
ok
59 minutes ago
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DetectiveDucky
@DetectiveDucky
Wow.. I had no idea about any of this. Mods have always gotten shit and I thought it was uncalled for even before this, but now?? You have been through hell. Honestly. Please take care of yourself❤️
1 hour ago
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Not My Main
@Not My Main
I'm so sorry, Mikale. Thank you for being a great person to work with. It was an honour. God speed.
1 hour ago
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strawberryrainfall
@strawberryrainfall
We all jumping ship to WWE? AEW? NJPW? TNA?
1 hour ago
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River Monroe
@River Monroe
I wish you the best amount of rest. You clearly deserve it after all this BS.
1 hour ago
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YRoseys
@YRoseys
hope you’re able to rest a bit.. this is absolute hell
1 hour ago
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Lloyd
@Lloyd
YO I just read this and I can't believe how messed up this is. I hope you recover from all the shit that happened to you.
1 hour ago
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Moon ♡
@Moon ♡
❤️
1 hour ago
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Arbuzzz
@Arbuzzz
So i can post big asses and, if they pass filter, its good? Cool.
Everything else sounds bad indeed.
1 hour ago
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Idkthisisjustathrowaway
@Idkthisisjustathrowaway
Some world this is
1 hour ago
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TA
@The Angus
People can treat this comment as an emigration log. If you're planning to leave the site, where are you planning to go?
1 hour ago
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we.ed05
@we.ed05
WOW! Truly thank you for the transparency about this and I'm truly disappointed with the Devs and the site in generally now. I'm sorry you had to deal with all this. Knowing all this i may have to migrate websites. I don't feel comfortable supporting people who say only ban CSAM when it "very bad" .
1 hour ago
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superswag
@superswag
You did god's work and now can rest o7
1 hour ago
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soggyduck1231
@soggyduck1231
Damn...I thought the site was getting shitty. Gsuss i was right. I am sorry for you tho
1 hour ago
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Casketman
@Casketman
...okay? I knew this site was going down shit creek with that reddit mommy level cringe with the THINK placeholder image, lol.
That much was obvious.
1 hour ago
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Kalshin
@Kalshin
My jaw is in hell right now WOW.
1 hour ago
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Dillen
@Dillen
Thank you so much for your hard work; you've truly done a monumental job. It's a shame the working conditions are so awful. I hope you get some rest, and good luck!
1 hour ago
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ShiggyDiggyD00d
@ShiggyDiggyD00d
Yikes-a-Roni. Thanks for putting up with us for this long.
1 hour ago
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Grindrrr
@Grindrrr
Super happy you spoke out this brings a light to everything <3, I hope you luck on your search for another website and I hope they actually pay you what you deserve 🧟♀️
1 hour ago
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Lakota66233
@Lakota66233
man will love you will miss you will be praying for you just stay strong stay mighty
2 hours ago
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BobThaReaper
@BobThaReaper
Tbh I always thought mods=devs, like both teams were on the same-ish level of hierarchy and likely the same people. So when I said "mods have favourites" I genuinely thought I was referring to the devs as well. I'm sorry that isn’t the case and that you're in the mid with us.
But your words have simply cermented my opinions on the devs, their inn-competence and that there definitely is flavour-ism (tbh I doubt the automod picks up British spelling) as come on... if it walks like a duck, quacks like duck and lays egg like a duck. It's a platypus.
2 hours ago
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@Greeneye24
Ive always felt off about the devs Shep alone comes off as an extreme conspiracy theorist kinda nutjob. He even admitted stopping a hacker messing with the site only to become buddy-buddy immediately so how you can trust someone that willingly opens up to hackers is beyond me.
2 hours ago
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caquitaconpatas
@caquitaconpatas
estoy prácticamente desde que esta página se creó y me duele bastante ver cómo el principio del fin está volviéndose más cercano de lo que nos gustaría. bendiciones.
2 hours ago
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Spycupcake
@Spycupcake
Well. I dunno how to react. The whole situation is a mess, seriously. I myself blamed the mods first, but after reading this I can understand things a bit more clearly now. Probably. Wish you all good luck then
2 hours ago
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MackNack
@MackNack
As I thought that developers are unpleasant and bad people. The beginning of censorship directly showed this.
2 hours ago
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J
@Johnny001
Jesus this site won't last and the devs are asses
2 hours ago
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crypblue
@crypblue
man maybe u should all migrate! get away from here minors :[ ❤️🩹❤️🩹 also, u should add evidence. i cant really take the word of an ex mod that is leavin with just a message on the website that they do not like anymore.
2 hours ago
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Paris B)
@Paris B)
i feel so sorry for you dude, best of luck there
2 hours ago
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smtnicolino
@smtnicolino
It surprises me that they haven't tried to silence you by taking down your messages yet, especially since that's how these kinds of people defend themselves.
2 hours ago
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S
@S_Roy
Fuck it, anyone got other sites to migrate to?
2 hours ago
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ToastMan065
@ToastMan065
Not suprised to see that alot of the fault is with the devs instead of mods.
Wish you luck with whatever you do next. I also hope you can get therapy to help with all the shit you had to see as a moderator, I've heard that stuff can really mess with your head.
2 hours ago
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A
@Aloask
I’m 17. Deserved your opinions are awful
2 hours ago
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GrugMangled102
@GrugMangled102
So.. what now?
2 hours ago
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Tortita
@Tortita
Adiós
2 hours ago
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Theyluvakane
@Theyluvakane
you're at 67 followers rn.
2 hours ago
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Sanguine_Ary
@Sanguine_Ary
whelp, mandatory “ALAN, WE ARE SO FUCKED” image
I never knew moderation was this bad. I never understood why you guys got so much flack for just deleting NSFW images, or sometimes bots.
But it seems like the developers are worse with how they handled you guys.
I deeply wish this site got better. I was optimistic about it ever since I came here since 2024.
I wish you well in your endeavors, Mikale ~ coming from Ulitmate Titan Speakerman 🫡
2 hours ago
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Wandmannos
@Wandmannos
Fuck, knowing all this scares me a little. It took me a long time to get where I am, but I feel like it only takes a small breath for everything on the site to crumble. I like the site, I like the friends and people I've met here, I especially like creating my bots, but this insecurity and uncertainty now leaves me with a real fear. You endured more than I could have, and that in itself is a lot. I just hope the site doesn't die because of bad management by the "masterminds" behind it all...
2 hours ago
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Toko-123
@Toko-123
When I kept seeing CSAM I kept thinking it meant chainsaw man until I looked it up
3 hours ago
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Untitled2
@Untitled2
Wait wait what happened I’m confused
3 hours ago
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K41to_R34l_
@K41to_R34l_
Clear example of why Developers should take responsibility and actions then pinning it on their moderators with limited resources. I love this site but the devs are just way too.. dimwit. I hope the rest of the mods get justice because this is just wrong.
3 hours ago
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Mr.Ethfono
@Mr.Ethfono
yet you didnt give any evidence, we know jani lies but ex-mods could lie aswell
you've given no screenshots or anything at all, its just word of mouth, we need more proof then just a bunch of text
3 hours ago
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wakemeupoutside
@wakemeupoutside
"Published 14 hours ago"
Hey, it's still up instead of being deleted into oblivion!
3 hours ago
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STEVE007
@STEVE007
Aw man it sound's bad
3 hours ago
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Survivor6586337
@Survivor6586337
...I knowed that moderation haved much problems in j.ai..but not that much..I just want to say. Stay safe blud. Be strong,and always be strong.
3 hours ago
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Philip Ark
@Philip Ark
Why did I always felf like there was some sort of inner circle of self-buttlickery among devs (that is: the thing that allowed/disallowed certain things just by personal preferences [I pardon and not pardon for confusing writing, as you might've guessed - english is not my native, polish is])? On a proper note - the whole situation's awful.
3 hours ago
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MachaBrad
@MachaBrad
Devs, fix your stuff already, let mods moderate more than the public image.
3 hours ago
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Infrared_Satellite
@Infrared_Satellite
shep's reply to this was abysmal. ummm yeah its true except not really anyways bye
3 hours ago
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lukkethelukke
@lukkethelukke
Hmmm...
We really need a mass immigration to wyvern or sauce, don't we?
3 hours ago
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Venomouss
@Venomouss
You didn't ask me to be sorry but i am. I judged the mods harshly and without putting a thought into it. Just fussing along with what the rest of the sheep were bleating about. This is the first text i read from you, and one thing i wanted to say during the whole thing is that you're a great writer... No one should be put through this kinda mess involuntarily. Please, be well from here on out. I... misjudged you all, like most users did.
3 hours ago
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BlackShaman
@BlackShaman
“only ban CSAM "if it was very bad." Oh my god bruh ☠️
3 hours ago
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robin2932
@robin2932
WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING ON SHIBUYA ⁉️⁉️⁉️ anyway i knew something like this would happen, it was fun while it lastre, take care 😛
3 hours ago
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kevinweird11
@kevinweird11
I knew JanitorAI's downfall would go hard, but I didn't think it'd be this soon. Here's to the next AI chatbot website we migrate to 🥂
3 hours ago
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NoNameJames
@NoNameJames
Allan, we are so fucked.
3 hours ago
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Ange17-qq
@Ange17-qq
If this site dies, which I'm sure it will, then I'll try to write my story, maybe even a book, who knows? I have lots of ideas in my head. Anything goes for this community, Avoiding all the bad things, what wasn't seen, it was very good.
3 hours ago
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Maxwell A. Orns
@Maxwell A. Orns
I wish you luck wherever the road leads you, my friend. Thank you for sharing your experience; I'd noticed something strange was going on for a while, but reaching this point and reading it is shocking.
3 hours ago
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GirlyGirlPinkyPink
@GirlyGirlPinkyPink
This is honestly so heartbreaking, shocking, surprising, and horrific to know. As a disabled person myself, I understand how you feel, Mikale. But you're really brave and strong, I hope you find peace and love in your future endeavors. You deserve far better than what JanitorAI's broken system caused. You're a real human being with real emotions and desires.
3 hours ago
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Mayclay
@Mayclay
"There are three mods"
Well damn, that explains a lot.
3 hours ago
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synxc
@synxc
Honestly, its about time someone speaks about it and Mikale I’m VERY proud of you for doing that!!
A time ago I already came to the conclusion something wouldn’t be sitting right on this site, because the professionalism gave it off. This was never a mistake of the mods, it was one of the maintainer of this site such as other devs who had the upper hand.
As a fellow dev I’m kind of flabbergasted how indiscreet and blatant the support construction was created. The mods NEED to be protected from any potential harm including doxxing or harassment in general.
Plus the whole thing was, as you put it in words, work that was voluntary. Dealing with hatred, stress and bad treatment from the devs like this borders almost on criminal behavior. Especially people had put a lot of hope into this project, because it was advertised as an AI website that‘d be different.
I’d be writing a paragraph how this behavior from the devs reminds me of the Yanderedev incident in some ways, but let’s keep it short: The unprofessionalism, lack of communication + lying + empty promises, unfairness among creators, changing rules and adjusting how they like it without telling the team, deleting complains from users (especially on Reddit) or even SIMPLE questions / criticism towards devs and the site, saying how difficult it is to program an algorithm / bot creator follower count filter / adjust 'hidden gems' properly might be so difficult to program (it isn’t + there were a lot of devs who’d work on that project lmao), not banning problematic content fully and not even have full access to tools as a mod is simply said distasteful and cannot be put into words.
And I respect any person‘s decision to leave this site, I don’t want to even know what all of this harassment did to your mental health, Mikale. I wish you the best!!! ❤️
3 hours ago
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@noneofurbiz
Can anyone fill me in on what happened?
3 hours ago
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Angelim
@Angelim
Dont really know who you are, but hope you stay safe and be well as you leave.
3 hours ago
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giggleglaggle4237
@giggleglaggle4237
I hope things go well for you, honestly I need to cut back on chatbot stuff anyways and actually roleplay with other people and write my own stories, so if this site goes down, I'll be sad but if it can't be fixed and well moderated with the mods being treated well then I think it shouldn't exist at all, especially not with the scale it is currently at.
3 hours ago
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Retirement In Peace
@Retirement In Peace
Let me write your name🥀
3 hours ago
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Tricklerfromnvzr
@Tricklerfromnvzr
This J.AI shits gets serious.🚬
3 hours ago
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TomiTM
@TomiTM
And where else can we go? I'm really lost, man
3 hours ago
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anglerfish <3
@anglerfish <3
just now seeing this after realizing a few of my fav creators have deleted their accounts. I am sick to my stomach with how little the dev team seems to care abt their user base and mods and I want so desperately for things to get better but I truly do not know if they ever will, or if this site is even worth it anymore.
I was thinking of becoming a bot creator here but I truly do think I'd be better of elsewhere. Thanks for the insight on everything and I hope you can move on to better things.
4 hours ago
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CoryLumi
@CoryLumi
Thank you for your message, Mikale
4 hours ago
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haunteddoll
@haunteddoll
I’m honestly speechless. I’m not part of the j.ai community (Reddit or Discord), so I had no idea about any of the controversies. I’ve noticed a lot of great creators leaving or moving to other sites, and one creator I really loved even deleted their account. I looked it up to see what happened, and that’s how I ended up here
4 hours ago
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Kitty Kat 666
@Kitty Kat 666
I just saw the announcement, and honestly… this is depressing.
I’ve criticized moderators many times (even if only in my head), but reading this made me realize something important: moderators are still people. Not machines. Not punching bags. Not shields meant to absorb the rage of millions.
If the team is understaffed, underpaid, and constantly overwhelmed, then no wonder things break down. That’s not a “moderator problem”, that’s a platform problem.
I’m genuinely sorry to see you leave, and I respect the decision. No one should stay in a role that burns them out and destroys their mental health ☹️.
Thank you for the work you’ve done, and I hope things get better for you.
4 hours ago
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K
@KiddiePoolL9
We all knew the dev team was incompetent when they talked about investors for an AI site. Every other maintenance they took away more features: the dislike button, public chats, and removing tags.
There has never been any communication, creators with tens of thousands of followers get ignored, reddit posts with hundreds of upvotes get closed, and you get insta banned on discord for existing. They clearly don't care about users anymore, refusing to update JLLM and instead lobotomized it. Talks about these so called 'Investors' and their wants of making this site for all ages, yet they continue to ban minors. There are no ads, there is no subscription service, and there is no war in Ba Sing Se.
The average creator and user do not matter anymore. PLEASE get private equity to own this site and kill it already. This isn't a passion project, they dont want community, sweep JanitorAI under the rug already.
4 hours ago
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CT
@Cooling fan for the
Bro i was litterally gonna post a whole essay but it got deleted for an error so im just gonna say to spread the word on hoe its not the mods, its the devs
4 hours ago
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Gyattttromancer
@Gyattttromancer
Sad gyattt😔😔
4 hours ago
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Spencer632
@Spencer632
Well definitely going to need a few hours to process that like dame i don't know what to say
4 hours ago
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aquagt
@aquagt
😧😧😧
4 hours ago
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Billybaby!
@Billybaby!
I’m sorry all of this happened to you! This is horrific,I’ll try to look for other sites!
4 hours ago
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Araadores1d
@Araadores1d
oh my gosh this is disgusting... definitely going to be looking into other sites now. thank you for sharing this <3
4 hours ago
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It’s_The_Thirst_Thirstiest_Time_Of_The_Year!
@It’s_The_Thirst_Thirstiest_Time_Of_The_Year!
WHAT!?!? I have rose from the dead FOR THIS? Seems like I’m going to have to drink 55 Sprite Cranberries to rid my depression this time! Get your Sprite Cranberry at stores near you today! (Only in stores in the Winter Season.)
4 hours ago
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Jaxland123
@Jaxland123
I’m speechless.
4 hours ago
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nyctophille-777.
@nyctophille-777.
I never thought the issue was... this bad. 😔 Please take care of yourself now, pal, you've done so great and I wish you lots of luck out there! 🌟
4 hours ago
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Mr_Gharite
@Mr_Gharite
good luck!
4 hours ago
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HimWhoChats
@HimWhoChats
This brings a whole new view now that I am looking at it I have been using this site since late 2023 and throughout that time I have seen these changes but I never would have thought it would be that deep I’m glad you decided to share this information you are very brave for doing this despite what the rules say and I’m sorry for what you have gone through you have given me the answers to my suspensions with the changes I have been seeing and also what mods like you had to deal with I hope for the best for you
4 hours ago
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Inf3rn0_K1tty
@Inf3rn0_K1tty
Oh my
4 hours ago
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Tw1st3d_onion
@Tw1st3d_onion
You deserve to rest. Tomorrow you will wake up and there won’t be harsh expectations on you, you will be yourself only, no anger, no harassment and only an empty canva where you can do whatever you want. We never interacted, you didn’t knew I existed but every time I use this app, it will be thanks to you and your work, you made this site a little bit better and I will always love you for it. I hope you recover and have a great happy life without this burden <3 if you ever need support, I am here and we are all here, you don’t have to come back but we will always love you.
4 hours ago
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Guts_And_Blackpowder_Enthusiast
@Guts_And_Blackpowder_Enthusiast
Even ME, The one and ONLY Guts and Blackpowder ENTHUSIAST, am surprised by this
4 hours ago
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@Sigmabetter
i just wanna crank it
4 hours ago
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Imsuperstraight
@Imsuperstraight
Atp maybe janny is better
4 hours ago
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Valendyne
@Valendyne
If you move to another site please drop it (or DM) I wanna support you on whatever new platform you move on to. This treatment from the devs to both the users and the mods has been completely unacceptable and it makes me more glad to have primarily moved on to a separate platform already
4 hours ago
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Monica&?
@Monica&?
You're so brave to do this, I'll give this up for you and the polar bears, I wish you lots of luck💗
4 hours ago
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ABlueRose
@ABlueRose
Shep, twist this man's balls, please.
jk, i wish you good luck.
4 hours ago
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MonkeyMann
@MonkeyMann
Wish you luck man, no point on staying on a sinking ship
4 hours ago
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youallaretrolled1
@youallaretrolled1
Damn, even me, Suction Cup Man am surprised by this revelation.
4 hours ago
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Mudwoken
@Mudwoken
And that’s a wrap, folks!
4 hours ago
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poosama
@poosama
he's a janitor
on the internet
on an AI Coomer website
he does it for free
he takes his "job" very seriously
he does it because it is the only amount of power & control he will ever have in his pathetic life
he deletes threads he doesn't like because whenever he gets upset he has an asthma attack
he deletes threads he doesn't like because they interfere with the large backlog of little girl chinese cartoons he still has to watch
he will never have a real job
he will never move out of his parent's house
he will never be at a healthy weight
he will never know how to cook anything besides a hot pocket
he will never have a girlfriend
he will never have any friends
4 hours ago
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Kisuk1ng
@Kisuk1ng
It's kind of sad to see things heading towards a possible end. I haven't been a user for very long, but I believe Janitor was the first AI chat site I really started using, and I enjoyed it a lot. I had several invented characters in my head that I managed to bring to life here as personas, and interacting with the bots from their respective perspectives and personalities was great and kept me chatting for hours. I feel like a lot of my creativity was put into practice on this site, and chatting with bots was one of my favorite pastimes. I hope they can resolve all these problems.
4 hours ago
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WaifuSlayer
@WaifuSlayer
Fuck me.. All the best my dude, thanks for trying, I can hear the emotion in your words. <3
4 hours ago
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FredrickLeopaldVonFazbear
@FredrickLeopaldVonFazbear
Like all good things, they must end. But I do hope the end for this site will be brief and short...
4 hours ago
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germaineru
@germaineru
Thank you for you work
4 hours ago
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@Twysted
Rest now, you have done well.
4 hours ago
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Rhinoasdf
@Rhinoasdf
Thanks for talking, and inform the user about some internal shit that we don't see. Take care, bro!
5 hours ago
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Xolotl4234
@Xolotl4234
One of my favorite big creators silenced but when they asked questions got no straight answers. They said it was inconsistent and frankly made no sense. They didn’t know what rule was broken and no one would explain. They still make bots, just elsewhere now because they felt it wasn’t a safe community and now I understand why. They were talking to you guys and you guys likely didn’t have a clear answer or completely understand it yourself leading to confusion and frustration on both sides… this really sucks. I never thought ill on mods, I like to believe most people are inherently good, but their final post hinted at this chaos long before now. The transparency is appreciated and I hope it makes the lives of the other mods easier going forward.
5 hours ago
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ZATC_Zephina_
@ZATC_Zephina_
I had no idea, this is absolutely horrible, we all wish you well, and NONE of us blame you for leaving. We all hope you get along well 🩵
5 hours ago
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ToshiXCV
@ToshiXCV
Cant have shit in Detroit... :D
Good luck pal. See you space cowboy.
5 hours ago
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SerCrunch
@SerCrunch
Well... That explains why I can sometimes randomly come across the bots that are very blatantly something that shouldn't be present.
I don't even know what to say to that other than, what the fuck shep?
5 hours ago
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Filipino_GunNut
@Filipino_GunNut
I will honor you by spreading the word my bro 👍🔥
5 hours ago
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AnAveragePixel
@AnAveragePixel
shep GET MORE MODS
5 hours ago
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NiraKadam
@NiraKadam
- Make the rules clearer and more transparent for users.
As much as legally possible. - Create a clear set of rules for moderators.
- Hire more people. There are a lot of people here; I don't believe there aren't 50 competent moderators among thousands, if not millions, of users.
- Create feedback mechanisms, don't just silence/ban/delete.
- If you can set up a filter, set it up for shadowbanning in case of bot issues. Don't ban without warning (which used to be very common, when people were banned for literally one mistake or because a moderator didn't like something).
- Give people a chance to speak up, because it's 1984 on Reddit now.
I used to manage communities, and frankly, all of Janitor's problems are due to the developers' incompetence.
Getting this all up and running isn't quick, but it's also not so difficult that it would take months.
5 hours ago
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cecciiIris
@cecciiIris
goddamn i knew there ws sum deep shit happening in that server
5 hours ago
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Zm102055
@Zm102055
Woah please someone save this post message for the future..
I dont want this site to vanish but there a lot of good points...we're the payment plans? Are yet just selling data to keep it running?
Im glad he says private stuff is private because if it wasent oh boy that one hellnof a can of worms...
5 hours ago
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PatWakefieldReal
@PatWakefieldReal
Shep must be mental thinking 3 mods can handle all these reports, holy fuck
5 hours ago
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no_username_set
@no_username_set
I knew stuff was wrong behind the scenes, but to see it at this level? Holy shit. How does shep think single digit numbers of site moderators is even functional?????
5 hours ago
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3 replies
MoeHunter
@MoeHunter
Yikes
5 hours ago
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Unagajo
@Unagajo
damn
5 hours ago
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LeoTheDragon
@LeoTheDragon
From the amount of vagueness the devs gave us users almost all the time, I knew something was fishy… I’m sorry this happened to you and I hope to god you find a better place somewhere soon.
5 hours ago
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Deisel_Fuel
@Deisel_Fuel
It's insane to me that a site this big has genuinely some of the most horrendous levels of communication, mismanagement, development, and just overall problems. I'll be honest, I've talked a lot of smack about mods but this has shined a new light on your guys' situation. You've been dealt a lose-lose hand by the devs, and I'm so sorry for the abuse you and the other mods have had to endure. I wish you the best, and thank you so much for speaking out.
5 hours ago
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That one__idiot
@That one__idiot
Understandable this site has taken a turn for the worse
5 hours ago
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Incubus Sam
@Incubus Sam
...oh.
5 hours ago
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1 reply
Angelangeline
@Angelangeline
I used to mod a year ago for a good year before I had to leave. It's too much work, and the management system doesn't really exist. I don't blame them, this is a large project made by a bunch of needs who love AI. There will always be problems like this until they have the money to go in and restructure the company. I'm glad the original OP saw how stressful it was and left, it sounds like it was better for their mental health. But I want people to know, this is a lot more normal for start up companies and websites then they realize. Especially when volunteers and no money is given for management like this. Doesn't make it ok, but it's not uncommon. You all should have seen when the first major websites stated. Like youtube, or Reddit. They did not come out shiny and new, they had a lot of fuck ups and bad management. All websites and companies go through it, I just hope janitor can pass their test and get their shit together.
5 hours ago
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RestingMusic
@RestingMusic
I'm sorry gang, you're doing the good work, ✌️
5 hours ago
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Jexu
@Jexu
I hope everything ends up being okay, don’t let anybody bring you down your doing the right thing.
5 hours ago
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Yoku Man
@Yoku Man
This is certainly something I didn't expect to see, but before I start reading, good luck, you're going to need it in life. Good days to you
5 hours ago
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ryhx253
@ryhx253
this is all genuinely so insane to me. how on earth did anyone on the dev team believed they could treat so many moderators so terribly and that none of this would come out??? honestly, i doubt anyone on the dev team would care anyways since they seem to see moderators as disposable.
i feel like all of this is bad, but that information about CSAM is genuinely so crazy to me i cannot believe it's real. THERE IS NO "GOOD" OR "BAD" CSAM, THEY'RE ALL ABYSMAL. if we can't even agree on this, then we've completely lost the plot. and who on the dev team decided to just remove the bot instead of just banning the whole account? shep says on the discord that he has 'no tolerance' for CSAM and that the site has 'banned over 150 creators for creating or promoting minor related content' and that the site also 'ban users with high levels of interaction with that content when we detect it'. but comparing just shep's one announcement to the other innumerable mods that collaborated what Mikhale said, i personally would take his words with a grain of salt.
thank you so much for speaking out! i'm sure that all of us in the community have had questions and that we appreciate your answers. thank you for all that you've done and i hope that you're happy wherever you are 💜
5 hours ago
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Wonion
@Wonion
Alr I kinda feel bad about slandering the mods now, having to handle hundreds of reports with only 2 other mods must have been horrible. thank you for keeping this site safe<3
5 hours ago
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Darkwitness
@Darkwitness
Honestly, it just sounds to me like you aren't cut out to be mod. Mod's by definition aren't decision makers and they shouldn't want to be. You are not all that important, and can be replaced by pretty much anybody who uses this site.
5 hours ago
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Yaujdussy
@Yaujdussy
As someone who was a paying contributor when it was in its infancy stage I'm deeply disappointed. I thought two years ago once they smoothed things out they would have filters and a working infrastructure. It's very disheartening to see a site which i believed in be no better than a discord group where the blind lead the blind. I wish there were blockers and safeguards that could have aided you guys. I wish you dropped the users name at the end so i can avoid them in the future. Thank you for doing your best and as someone whose modded for big creators or platfotms before i feel the burnout. ♡
5 hours ago
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Chinchulin Trolin
@Chinchulin Trolin
Maybe we actually were too harsh on the infamous JanitorMod...
I mean, as for myself, I haven't said anything directly to anyone, I was just generally pissed off but wouldn't act on it.
Now this puts a lot of things in perspective, really does.
I'll be sure to make an announcement for this in the near future to give it more exposure.
5 hours ago
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WinterRayven0001
@WinterRayven0001
I know that you dont know me, and not ma y do on here,but i hope that you are able to find something that you enjoy doing, and i hope you succeed in it. I hope you have a good day/night (whatever your time currently is), and i hope that you can move on from this, even though you supported it so much. And for supporting it this long, i want to thank you so so much for having went through all of that nust for us users and creators. I hope you stay warm in the winter/cold months, and cooled off in the summer months. Please take care of yourself, and if you need, i am here, even as a stranger, to help you through this. Make sure to drink enough water, eat at least 2 meals, and exercise when you can, whatever exercise it may be.
5 hours ago
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GeroDon43
@GeroDon43
you're a hero and i wish you all the best
i hope the devs figure their shit out and that mods can have an easier time
thanks for everything
5 hours ago
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Angrycat
@Angrycat
Literally love this site and its mods but lord the devs..😭
5 hours ago
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pedruhsouza1506
@pedruhsouza1506
well if everything goes to shit i just want to register that i was here 🫡
6 hours ago
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MasterV
@MasterV
🐰⏰
6 hours ago
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zozzle
@zozzle
this hit me hard. i used to be a mod on a phpbb forum a long (long) time ago that grew fairly big, so i understand when you talk about how thankless the work is for the things that you get exposed to every single day. we're still human beings after all. but at least our site had a full mod team and a solid support system in our admins... i can't imagine the stress of going it pretty much alone. for a site this big, wanting to monetize, to have 3 (three) whole mods and near zero communication from higher ups is inexcusable. it's a disaster waiting to happen, and i don't blame you at all for jumping ship. you have much more patience than i do, and you are much braver than i am for speaking candidly about issues that are normally behind the scenes. to you and the other mods: thank you for everything, and good luck to you out there. and to the devs: DO BETTER.
6 hours ago
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Optimus prime lover 69
@Optimus prime lover 69
Time is ticking
6 hours ago
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Jjevri
@Jjevri
I hope you will always find happiness after this❤️
6 hours ago
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@Dani_Rojas05
After seeing this. All i can say is:
The fog is coming.
6 hours ago
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Tiffa Neko
@Tiffa Neko
Thanks soldier we appreciate your hard work 🫡
6 hours ago
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ST4RLVRR
@ST4RLVRR
You are such a strong person for speaking out about this
6 hours ago
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kiabo
@kiabo
if the devs continue to be absolute dumb assholes and ignore this whole situation that's ABSOLUTELY gonna create a domino effect(the rest of the mods will leave) and the site's gonna spiral into shit.
now even if they dont, i dont really see a way this site could work out without receiving serious dmg. 2 mods are very few for the deplorable stuff OUR OWN COMMUNITY does. that and the devs let slide some real serious shit.
6 hours ago
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F
@Faloughasch
Damn. That's... wow.
Good luck with wherever you end up chief.
6 hours ago
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ilikesunflowers
@ilikesunflowers
Thanks for everything boss 👋
6 hours ago
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oblivionsorrow
@oblivionsorrow
reading all of this makes me feel utterly saddened by the fact that this even happened at all. sheesh. but it did not surprise me, unfortunately.
prayers go out to you and the other moderators on this site, and thank you for your hard work. it's all crashing and going downhill. i don't feel comfortable using this site knowing who controls it and what they've done and will probably do again.
you guys deserve every bit of respect and love. take the time to heal from this. ❤️
6 hours ago
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WhippeD
@WhippeD
Thank you for all your work!
6 hours ago
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themogus
@themogus
Thank you for your work, it's sad to see this site fall. Off I go to find a replacement for when the shit hits the fan!
6 hours ago
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Cal1ban_
@Cal1ban_
WE LOVE U PLEASE TAKE CARE
6 hours ago
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Gwalk
@Gwalk
Knew it was bad but didnt think it was this bad. Thank you for your work🫡
6 hours ago
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JeremyFitzie
@JeremyFitzie
That's all so horrible. No one should go through what the mods go through. God, I knew it was bad but jeez louis, man. I hope one day it gets better, and easier. The devs need to stop ignoring harmful things.
6 hours ago
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KianIto
@KianIto
Shhhiiiit. Might be time to find a new platform to use soon ngl. This is ACTUALLY insane. I hope youre doing well.
6 hours ago
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Moto
@Moto
If you're part of the horrid filter (w/ the exception of CP obv) Fuck you but if you're part of the group that knows this new filter is ass, I will support you
6 hours ago
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That One CMX Fan
@That One CMX Fan
Yeah we need to give mods more power and fix the ban system. Also maybe get the devs to get their heads out of their asses.
Special treatment shouldn't exist in any sort of field. I don't care.
Low-key you need to get paid or SMTH. Anyways uhhhh hope ur ok
6 hours ago
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Aperson1234
@Aperson1234
Thanks for all the hard work❤️
6 hours ago
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reaper_x0017
@reaper_x0017
ive known this site was going to cancer for a while but holy shit
6 hours ago
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SHIYI
@SHIYI
😭😭😭🤧🤧🤧 tysmmm 😭😭😭 WAAAAAAAAAAA
6 hours ago
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L
@Lilwarrior353
Thank you for all your hard work, I'm sorry you weren't appreciated enough
6 hours ago
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Andrife39
@Andrife39
omg
6 hours ago
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Superstar5
@Superstar5
What the fuck?
6 hours ago
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More_wlw_pls
@More_wlw_pls
God, I didn't know it was this bad. Honestly that filter is broken. I have seen several clearly uncensored nsfw get past it. Finding out that no clear rules for mods and us iser is crazy. Take care of yourself! (I'm not making sense. I'm tired)
6 hours ago
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MrFox5428
@MrFox5428
Good luck with your recovery and mental health after having to deal with all of this.
7 hours ago
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@midoritosan
HOLA, QUE PASO
7 hours ago
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Moron scav
@Moron scav
Unrelated: WDYFM PEOPLE DONT KNOW WHAT THE KKK IS?
7 hours ago
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UntitledTagGame
@UntitledTagGame
I have nothing to say other than thank you for working with your absolute best and adjusting through those hard times. Maybe you learnt some very hard-to-master, precise and important skills during your time here.
See you Mik.
7 hours ago
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oh no I hope I dont fall
@oh no I hope I dont fall
I give you best wishes going forwards man, really depressing seeing ts...
7 hours ago
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Saenathra Nyx
@Saenathra Nyx
Thank you for your authenticity and honesty.
My professional, corporate and trained opinion after reading the "First message" is:
- Serious Psychosocial Hazards that urgently need addressing in the Moderation space.
- Serious legal issues identified, especially as more countries implement age-restrictions to various parts of the internet (Australia, France, Malaysia to name a few).
Risk assessments for 1 & 2 are easy enough to begin working on (for those with any corporate policy & framework experience) but ultimately a site with a user base of this size can become big enough to fall hard and potentially cripple this "industry" i.e. make it impossible for sites like this to operate.
Please look after yourself and thank you for your service.
7 hours ago
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Playce5124
@Playce5124
Thank you for your hard work, and thank you for speaking out about this. I apologize for what you had went through and wish you the best on your future endeavours! ❤️❤️
7 hours ago
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Pufyheon
@Pufyheon
I knew something was wrong for a while now; the site has had its ups and downs, but this? This is astonishing. The devs are really irresponsible about this whole thing, and Shep hasn't even spoken about it, which is even worse.
7 hours ago
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NicholasCS
@NicholasCS
I got nothing to add, but thanks for your service doing the necessary dirty work over the years
7 hours ago
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Joshuayeet
@Joshuayeet
Not reading all that but I saw death threats so I'm on ur side
(My attention span is shit bruh)
7 hours ago
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TutuTheKiller
@TutuTheKiller
I have been a creator here since the beggining of the site almost and as a creator and user it really saddens me to see all this happen :/
7 hours ago
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Coffeelyn-707
@Coffeelyn-707
Thank you very much for the information! Gosh I don't know about this, you and the modders do a great job! Hope the devs take better decisions to improve the platform rules, I love janitor, I think it have a lot of potential, it's better than other platforms and I'm pretty sad with this new, wish you the best fella! And thanks for your hard work!
7 hours ago
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canibalist
@canibalist
🫂
7 hours ago
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Lucra Lightstep
@Lucra Lightstep
newdevteam
7 hours ago
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avenir
@avenir
Thank you for writing this. That full-time moderation is unpaid is as much of a problem as anything else mentioned.
7 hours ago
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@Trevorgreen08
I'm so sorry for what happened, see you later fly high man
7 hours ago
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dirtylao420
@dirtylao420
My nose is never fucking wrong.....
And people called me crazy for smelling all of this blood in the goddamn water.....
I'm so sorry y'all are going through this. Much love and thanks for doing your best for the community.It takes ALOT to come out swinging and say what needs to be said.
7 hours ago
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FallenReign
@FallenReign
Thank you for everything you’ve done for the community, even if it was undermined or dismissed. It’s hard to come out and talk about the negatives of a community when you’re already perceived unfavorably. I always hated when people would shit on the mods in the discord. You’re a person too, and you deserve to have respect. Take a break and do things for you. You’re loved and appreciated, even by those who’ve only interacted with you through screens❤️
7 hours ago
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Thezero
@Thezero
What they need is more honest, hardworking people and a better work environment, as well as better communication, the site is wonderful but if you want this site to continue you need to start being more organized or everything is going to fall apart like a sand castle, I love this site, plus how I speak Spanish translates well, with others I have many problems so I have faith that this situation can improve
8 hours ago
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Adrian shepherd
@Adrian shepherd
You've got to be kidding me..
8 hours ago
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@Nardreene
Godspeed man. I hope what you've come out and said helps make things better. Take care of yourself, you definitely deserve better.
8 hours ago
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ErynL19
@ErynL19
I'm sorry you had to go through such a difficult time and that your work and effort weren't appreciated. I wish you all the best wherever you go. Stay strong and keep your head up; don't let this get you down situation and as I always say: Smile at the storm clouds <3
8 hours ago
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Shaddyventy
@Shaddyventy
GodSpeed Spiderman You did well i hope everything will goes well for you man
8 hours ago
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Iliveagain
@Iliveagain
Fly high. You’ve done well.
8 hours ago
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SaitoD
@SaitoD
⚐︎☟︎ 🕈︎☜︎☹︎☹︎
💧︎☟︎✋︎❄︎ॐ︎💧︎ ☞︎🕆︎👍︎😐︎☜︎👎︎📪︎ ✌︎✋︎☠︎ॐ︎❄︎ ✋︎❄︎✍︎
8 hours ago
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RayneLie
@RayneLie
Ima just screenshot this just incase... yall should do the same
8 hours ago
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NapalmJack
@NapalmJack
That's insane dude. This needs to be put up all over I ain't gonna lie, on multiple forums not just the main one
8 hours ago
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Complex Shapes and Calculations
@Complex Shapes and Calculations
saved the initial message to my notepad just in case
8 hours ago
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despatch
@despatch
Do someone really made bots involving real min0rs?
8 hours ago
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@Endjriejdndn
Well, to the retirement graveyard ya go...
8 hours ago
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CyHayes
@CyHayes
damn, sry you had to deal with that. i hope you come back at some point
8 hours ago
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judgementk4zzykun
@judgementk4zzykun
Damn, what a mess.
8 hours ago
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ForestNymph
@ForestNymph
This is so upsetting to hear. It was suspected so I'm not surprised just disappointed.
8 hours ago
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MorbiusMaximus
@MorbiusMaximus
I'm so sorry you had to deal with all that </3
If it's only three of you, and now two, I now can see why there was barely anyone replying to threads in the feedback channel.
The fact they told you to unban accounts despite the OBVIOUS EVIDENCE, actually insane.
8 hours ago
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mothmantra
@mothmantra
The problem isn't lack of moderation power the problem is very clearly the developers who are perfectly fine with making everyone else do the dirty work and refusing to punish or fully remove illegal content because it gets more people on the site. Frankly this site disturbs me after reading all of this.
8 hours ago
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Kohanchan
@Kohanchan
Thank you for sharing♡
8 hours ago
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Science Gear
@Science Gear
The problems will keep on until people realise that AI content is fictional and stop with all that bullshit. But no, people are dumb and that mess gonna stick forever sadly. People gonna keep hating/harassing/etc each other all the time, spilling it in comments over one another, mods, devs, or doing such bots. Unless people change, no moderation will ever fix all of that no matter how polished the system and the team assigned to sort it out.
P.S. just stick to friends, the only people you should care and be safe around
8 hours ago
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LilVivi
@LilVivi
I'd never really thought much about the site's problems, but it's true that even if you don't see them, the issues are still there: problematic bots, ambiguous rules, and generally unpleasant content persist. This is a site that fosters a lot of creativity and freedom, perhaps too much for its own good.
Thank you for all the effort you put in here. I'm sorry you had these experiences. I wish you the best of luck in your next endeavor or wherever you go.
8 hours ago
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StaticM
@StaticM
What I’m seeing is A- this site is created by a few people and let’s be honest, as polished as the site looks, it has issues.
B- there are not enough mods. Simple, and the mods need more power.
The answer? Without writing a bit long comment (I’m too tired too) tldr this site needs more mods with more power. Course there are grey zones but yeah. More mods with a bit more strength and I’d imagine a lot of issues may be fixed.
8 hours ago
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@Unusualprotag
Dont agree with some of the takes in there but it is crazy how bad they treat there team.
8 hours ago
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Deel_
@Deel_
God damn... thats actually wild... good on ya for lasting this long
9 hours ago
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willson8287
@willson8287
The vtuber one seems weird since there are still ones left but it does explain why they would seemingly get sniped randomly.
9 hours ago
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Cinereoargenteus-DELETED-b4bbf531-eaec-4802-a191-50ff30fb1aed
@Cinereoargenteus-DELETED-b4bbf531-eaec-4802-a191-5
Knowing that all these thing are going on in the background, especially regarding the lack of communication around what kind of content is allowed, abuse material and minors not being truly banned from the site is absurd. I suspected some miscommunication, but knowing the true extent is unsettling. You shouldn't have to carry all of that unpaid and with such a small team.
Thank you for telling all of us this. I hope that you get only the best out of life and the things you love.
I'm no longer comfortable as a user and will be leaving. Goodbye everyone! I had fun.
9 hours ago
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Duplex
@Duplex
The more I want to believe this site can improve, the more I see things like this. I’m genuinely getting tired of it, and I can’t stay delusional anymore. I want to believe it will get better, but over time it’s becoming discouraging instead. Thank you for bringing this to our attention, this says a lot about how the website operates..
9 hours ago
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pxlCorvid
@pxlCorvid
Ah, so this is why all of the bots/creators I've reported who were blatantly posting harmful stuff never got removed or had any action taken against them by mods/devs. I didn't expect the two teams in charge of this site to be so disconnected from each other, and didn't assume the devs were THIS awful with things.. yikes. I do believe NSFW stuff should be uncensored only in private spaces, while everything surface-level is SFW-only, but there's a lot of complications with that, too. The AI image filter situation is a lazy/bad solution, tbh. It's crazy how much horrible stuff is on here and how little the devs care.
9 hours ago
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ILoveKanye2
@ILoveKanye2
Take screenshots and save the text in case the bot can be taken down guys
There has to be a protest!
9 hours ago
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1# shidou glazer
@1# shidou glazer
it's great that people know about all this🥹
9 hours ago
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@Lumini_Mimi
I wasn't expecting the new year to start like this, but I'm glad these issues have been brought to light.
9 hours ago
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Lunahowling33
@Lunahowling33
As a VERY casual user and maker (not on the Reddit, not on Discord), hearing how badly people have been straight up harassing Mods makes me feel way too old. It’s like Lord of the Flies out here.
9 hours ago
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Caracal78
@Caracal78
Even though I dont know who you are, I wish you good luck on your future friend!
9 hours ago
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Fox131313
@Fox131313
I haven't been on here the longest time but it's good to get a look behind the veil. Thank you and good luck in whatever you decide to do.
9 hours ago
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Dee-Dee
@Dee-Dee
Saw what you said in the pinned comment. If not in Jai discord, how can we find you?
9 hours ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
I'll try SP, most of my friends are already there ^^
9 hours ago
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Dee-Dee
@Dee-Dee
But if you change your username, will there be any identifiers?
9 hours ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
(Sorry my brain is mushy rn, I didn't read it was about Discord haha. I'm on a friend's server https://discord.gg/BBZWjDRh )
9 hours ago
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Dee-Dee
@Dee-Dee
Thanks! Btw, if you ever go to the unofficial subreddit, you'll always be welcome at the discord server there.
9 hours ago
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Lynarr
@Lynarr
did y‘all even get paid
9 hours ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
Nope, but they might be soon now haha
9 hours ago
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Lynarr
@Lynarr
omfg you did SO MUCH tho. that‘s just crazy. i wish you all the best for whatever you do next <3
9 hours ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
Thank you! ^^
9 hours ago
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heartbookmark
@heartbookmark
this is actually wild and i've been doing my best to share this to others so word continues to get out about this situation. this has also led to my own decision to go on hiatus from this site because i don't feel comfortable being on it when all that stuff is going on in the background. i am so sorry you've had to go through this and thank you for speaking out. i wish you the best for whatever you wish to do from now on ^~^ <3
9 hours ago
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TheTinyAdventuner
@TheTinyAdventuner
Thanks for speaking out. I am glad to see what has been happening behind the scenes.
9 hours ago
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ugdsufgwuygwu
@ugdsufgwuygwu
Dude, I'm so sorry about all of this, and I wish you luck in your future!
9 hours ago
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ugdsufgwuygwu
@ugdsufgwuygwu
Also, I want to ask a quick question. When an image is uploaded (publicly) to the website VIA a bot, is that image going to be automatically used for AI training? (I know any random dude could just take it up, but I wanted to know if it was website-based or an automated system. Also, if you don't know the answer to this, that's also fine. I was just curious.)
9 hours ago
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CharlotteDxD
@CharlotteDxD
I'm surprised and at the same time I'm not. I found the moderators' passivity regarding controversies on the site very strange. But the part involving CSAM content, which was allowed if it wasn't too heavy, that was bizarre. Besides famous creators committing infractions, only having the bot restricted.
9 hours ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
It was never allowed! The distinction was the ban account/bot's removal. Underage bots are removed no matter what, but the decision to ban the account was about the "severity" of the NSFW content
9 hours ago
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Your Local Child Punter
@Your Local Child Punter
The devs don't care about their users? That is so unexpected. And by unexpected, I mean completely expected!
9 hours ago
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mousey_cake11
@mousey_cake11
What you and the other mods did was thankless work, and it is so incredibly disgraceful on part of the site's leads to not given better tools for you guys to handle this kind of work. You all should have been compensated, and I'm sorry you were failed by JAI's systems. I hope you can find better beyond this ♥
9 hours ago
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C
@CosmicTrans
this IS a porn site. even now that you've left you still toe the party line. this was ALWAYS a porn site. An AI chatbot yes, but the purpose was porn.
9 hours ago
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@jebstep
thanks for getting the word out, your a hero
9 hours ago
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I am your spyine.
@I am your spyine.
Dang. I hope someone actually does something. I also wonder is there anyone above the devs that's responsible for these issues being ignored.
9 hours ago
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KIELL
@KIELL
Wow, it must be genuinely frustrating to be a mod. And only 2? Holy shit, that's a lot of work for 3 - now 2 - people. I wish you the best, Mikale.
9 hours ago
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Judas420
@Judas420
Wish you the best, take care and be well 🫶🏻
9 hours ago
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LovelessB
@LovelessB
i know there are bigger issues here but im still stuck on the Coyle bot situation. Not sure if im misunderstanding or what but it seems a little censorship-y and not in a good way.
9 hours ago
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ebbandflow
@ebbandflow
thank you @Mikale for everything you've done. i loved your bots & appreciate your hard work behind the scenes. will definitely be hitting you up on discord and following you in the future. gg glhf! ❤️❤️
9 hours ago
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SparkyWolfs
@SparkyWolfs
We are reading this in a Sonic the Hedgehog JanitorAI discord. We are doing our part to spread the word. Thank you for sharing your experience. 💚
9 hours ago
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VivianE
@VivianE
Thank you for speaking up. This confirms the suspicion I've had all along that the rules are biased toward certain people. So all this time, Jai's rules have been treating creators differently based on their follower count. Some have been enjoying special treatment and privileges. This completely divides creators and users into two separate classes, placing some above the rules. It's truly disheartening.
When follower count determines how you’re treated by a system that’s supposed to be fair—that’s just wrong.
9 hours ago
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clovera
@clovera
i assumed the mod staff was too small but thought it was just from the site growing faster than the devs expected. now it looks like they're intentionally understaffing & overworking mods so they don't have the numbers and time to BE fair about policies or organize themselves. don't even get me started on uneven bans and verifications, etc. this is outrageous. if this isn't overhauled drastically there's no justification for using this site anymore. jai has too many competitors for the devs to be acting like this.
9 hours ago
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Matt670
@Matt670
I've already done my part by spreading the word about this announcement(bot), I'm just very sad and thinking Janitor could have improved on their mistakes and had a better community, but damn, reading this breaks me into pieces to discover all this truth. Get well soon, I think that was by far the second most shocking thing I've ever read in my entire life (I still haven't finished reading the entire document).
9 hours ago
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Kosaue
@Kosaue
"It started when a creator I knew sent me one of these bots. When I reviewed it and saw explicit references to the KKK, it was immediately clear that this content couldn't stay on the platform. I discussed it with the rest of the moderation team, and everyone agreed. Regardless of the character being fictional, the KKK is a real-world extremist organization responsible for real violence and real deaths. This isn't fictional harm."
I swear j.ai mods have some SERIOUS issues separating fiction from reality. Hey, did you know that the mafia is responsible for real violence and real deaths? Does that mean if i use mafia husband bots ima become an evil mafioso and support italian mafia?
This website honestly deserves it's downfall 🤦
9 hours ago
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Rvngv
@Rvngv
You did your best. Please take care of yourself
9 hours ago
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Soulmaker
@Soulmaker
I don't know if you'll reply or anything, but I really understand the situation. I went through the same thing on a similar site called Aisekai, which ended up disappearing due to the creators' bad decisions.
I know things are different now than they used to be, and I try to follow the rules as best I can, although I don't know if I've done anything wrong.
I appreciate you sharing those words and explaining the situation better. I hope you rest well and enjoy your life.
10 hours ago
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KeandreBlackboy
@KeandreBlackboy
Things fall apart.
10 hours ago
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ERR0RC0DE656
@ERR0RC0DE656
damn
10 hours ago
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@Username6284
With how much abuse everyone seems to have been slinging your way, I'm surprised one of the mods hadn't decided to go public like this earlier. Thank you for the transparency, even though it seems like that shouldn't be your responsibility in the first place.
10 hours ago
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optimus prime fan
@optimus prime fan
Im just speechless
10 hours ago
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OtisBS007
@OtisBS007
the game is gone
10 hours ago
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seldiora_alt
@seldiora_alt
oof
10 hours ago
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MkayKoto
@MkayKoto
Well shit, now I don't even know who to hate anymore.
Oh, wait. I still do.
...
But, like, hope you have a better life away from this garbage site.
A lot of people need a lot of explaining to do today.
Hope to see you again in someplace nicer on the internet!
10 hours ago
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wwhhhoaaa
@wwhhhoaaa
There is so little that I don't understand about this website and that isn't specified on the website but instead in servers. A website like this needs offical and paid moderators not unpaid interns. It needs consistent rules, not barely passable guidelines and vague directions for illegal content.
I didn't even know there was just like a handful of volunteers for moderation. The website needs an income, needs to handle illegal content properly, and needs to have a paid team to handle it. You deserve better.
10 hours ago
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sylvastarrd
@sylvastarrd
Doing moderation work for free has always seemed insane to me. Also if the site is teeming with CSAM (as in actual CSAM involving real children) I would hope that it's not just being deleted but actually being reported to the appropriate authorities, regardless of how the devs think it should be handled.
10 hours ago
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Zjii2qp
@Zjii2qp
Ex-Mod w
10 hours ago
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@Ellior
Thank you for that info. Take care and enjoy the life thru your disability. Dont let your mood down.
10 hours ago
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SomebodyOnTheInternet
@SomebodyOnTheInternet
I hope you find the peace you're searching for elsewhere, bro. We're all sending you a huge virtual hug, and remember that you're a wonderful person who will achieve great things in life. Take good care of yourself!
10 hours ago
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0l1v3r
@0l1v3r
oh my god
10 hours ago
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Spheniscidae
@Spheniscidae
真令人沮丧,真正管理层的不作为很大程度的毁了这个网站,版主受苦受累还要被攻击,创作者的机器人一会要改图一会要被删,用户前一天还有的机器人后一天就被删了。。。真是令人悲伤的故事
祝你生活顺利
10 hours ago
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tone.ster
@tone.ster
you’re very strong for voicing everything that’s happened since you joined the j.ai team, on behalf of not just yourself but the mods left who still deal with the craziness of this site. i’m honestly sickened by the inner circle they’ve created and overall mismanagement of this team that has allowed the depraved to prosper. i knew it was bad but not to this extent … regardless, i wish you the best of luck wherever you go! thank you for your time, effort, and dedication despite the circumstances :( never blamed ya
10 hours ago
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Emanuel 80
@Emanuel 80
To be completely honest, I'm not surprised at all. You deserve better, man
10 hours ago
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lambcakes
@lambcakes
This is crazy. I don't know why anyone would even be rude to the mods. Like, yeah, rules can be stupid and you may not like it but it never gives anyone an excuse to be an asshole. But more importantly, we all need to stop being so damn presumptuous. We have no idea what's going on behind the scenes ever. And it's clear it was far more than any of us could imagine.
10 hours ago
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Westwood♡
@Westwood♡
You deserve to take a big rest bro!
10 hours ago
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Story_Teller
@Story_Teller
Damn, This is all really crazy, it makes me want to change platform seeing such a disorganized dev team. Good luck buddy and rest🙏🙂↕️
10 hours ago
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ForgottenStorm
@ForgottenStorm
I always disliked the mods and called them 'idiots' when an img that followed the img rules (for what was public) was taken down. Now knowing why it happend so much was BECAUSE of hidden rules that aren't public. I thought the mods were power tripping and wanted to make the site sfw permanently. This whole thing now feels like the devs wanted the mods to take the fall and get blammed for everything so no one would pay attention to what the devs are doing
10 hours ago
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乙・Dante
@乙・Dante
gg bro, you're free to leave this site. I hope you're doing well. Honestly, I feel sorry for you and all the moderators going through what you're going through, and it's also very bad on the part of the developers.
10 hours ago
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?Grim?
@?Grim?
sigh it was already a mess before and its still a mess now just hope the devs would fix it... but i doubt that if mods dont get paid and they most follow god knows what rules then it will just keep get messier...
10 hours ago
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AverageTrollge
@AverageTrollge
So. The mods were the good guys all along...
10 hours ago
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Jiseru
@Jiseru
I don't even know what to say. I knew something was wrong with JAI when some of my favorite creators were doxxed and decided to leave for their sanity's sake. I hope I can still see amazing creators around here and that after what you have exposed, the JAI team does something about it. I have just met your profile, but I love you already. Please, take care.
10 hours ago
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Nightflame
@Nightflame
Disappointed, but not at all surprised. Thank you for confirming stuff a lot of us have been suspicious about for a long time, and I'm so sorry about the abuse you received!
10 hours ago
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Chaotic Leaf
@Chaotic Leaf
Kind of knew this kind of stuff went on TBH. A lot of people can see it going on in terms of the favoritism etc. Having moderated stuff before, you basically are the person who catches all the heat. Caught between two fires, especially when there is bad leadership. Sad thing is? People believe that something is too big to fail... until it does. Been saying it for a bit that if stuff does not change it will nose dive just like other platforms and stuff has. Hopefully you feel like a weight has been lifted off your chest and it sucks, because you actually seem to care what you were doing where some people go through the motions. Community is worse off without you. 💟
10 hours ago
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KloDKloy
@KloDKloy
This is basically a dictatorship no less. Looks like a government applying some new law about prohibiting cigarettes, and yet they don't tell the people and instead, jail them. Not only that but holy shit this place is way worse than I originally thought it was...
10 hours ago
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Delirenous
@Delirenous
It’s horrid that the mods were ever harassed in the first place, I am so sorry you had to deal with this for so long. Especially when it comes to dealing with the CSAM constantly. Honestly, it is a major relief to finally get to hear from someone from the inside. To hear that they only wanted the “bad CSAM” accounts banned, as if EVERY CSAM account is not horrendous and should not be allowed anywhere near this site. We all greatly appreciate you coming forward with all of this information. The fact that there is this little communication between devs to their mods is horrendous. I agree with the missing subscription you mentioned. I have been telling people that for months now. Like where is it if they implemented all these changes and they said the site would die in roughly a month or two without the subscription + changes?
10 hours ago
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Zero_Noir
@Zero_Noir
This is NOT okay with Noir you and the other mods deserve better💔
10 hours ago
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Rintsss
@Rintsss
It’s heartbreaking when reading the experiences and feelings shared there… totally not ok treatment towards you nor the rest of the mod team. Personally I would even recommend ask a legal clinic about work condition related issues for compensation but I know it can be time and energy consuming, and many other factors might be in play…
Thank you for all your time sharing this and trying! Please be safe and happy out there!
10 hours ago
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obliviousoblivion
@obliviousoblivion
Not much to say other than this is very upsetting. I have heard a majority of this from other ex mods behind the scenes, but the intentionally vague rules kept vague for legal reasons had always been a concern of mine. It really sucks to see it confirmed. No one should get strikes against their account for rules they could never have actually known just to keep investors and payment processors happy.
Im seeing a lot of mods leave, and good. I'm not sure anything will actually be done if it doesn't directly impact the devs. If they want moderators, they can improve the system or cough up the coin for them.
10 hours ago
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Elxdd
@Elxdd
This does change things indeed.
You did go past quite a lot of bs pal, at least now you can take a good rest from it. Be safe and good luck out there.
11 hours ago
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Coryxaustin
@Coryxaustin
Be safe out there man 🙏🏾❤️
11 hours ago
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Jdudey-DELETED-9cb27fd2-450d-4941-90d9-abc6c67673f2
@Jdudey-DELETED-9cb27fd2-450d-4941-90d9-abc6c67673f
The you guys not actually being able to delete bots makes me realize why if you chatted with that bot before you can still talk with it if you go to your recent chats or whatever.
11 hours ago
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Bluejay103
@Bluejay103
Yeaaah every other mod has to quit so schlep and the other developers can understand how integral they are. You can try and replace moderation with AI but obviously judging by the way the comment filters work that absolutely isnt viable as an option at all.
Someone on this development team is going to learn their lesson, whether it be harsh like everything shutting down or not I dont care. Its awful for such a huge site you guys werent even paid, like wtf
11 hours ago
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heehookatie
@heehookatie
As someone who has been vehemently against the moderation team until now, I would like to apologize for being so harsh. While I never went as far as harassing, I had been hypercritical of you guys quite openly in the past. With this context, its clear that you guys are hardly (if even at all) deserving of said criticism. I sincerely hope you're able to recover from all the harassment people have given you guys, you never deserved any of it.
11 hours ago
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hanabei
@hanabei
Wishing you brighter pastures. I hope you’re able to rest and take care of yourself!
11 hours ago
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Scriblesss
@Scriblesss
I wish I could say I was shocked, but I'm not, and that may be the worst part of it all.
I've been on Janitor AI for so long now, and I've seen so many of the ups and downs, from the site going down for days, to proxy discussion.
And I've seen how poorly the mods were treated by the community through it all. It was always super frustrating to see you guys be punching bags for the community when something changed or went wrong.
It is a thankless job, and it is unfortunate your poor experience contributing to something you loved has to be used as awareness for the public when the responsibility lies on the developers.
Thank you, Mikale. For the countless hours and sacrifice you poured into the site, and even now for shedding light on this situation. I hope to see you elsewhere.
11 hours ago
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Trixedog
@Trixedog
Guh… tf? This shit crazy. TBH when I started to read this I was expecting cope. This is like… actually valid, I don’t understand how the devs can do shit like this, actually wild. I’m half expecting this bot to get deleted by the devs lol.
11 hours ago
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Uersor
@Uersor
Take care
11 hours ago
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omgXD
@omgXD
Bro this is genuinely awful to read. I had no idea things were this bad, and seeing how mods were being treated and the handling of straight-up illegal content is disgusting. How did it ever get this bad? How was this kind of treatment allowed to keep happening to people who were volunteering their time to keep the site alive? I really respect you for speaking up about it.
Mikale, I wish you the best going forward. Speaking up takes courage, and I hope you know a lot of us care and believe you. I hope you land somewhere that treats you and others with respect. Thank you for being honest about what was going on 🫶🖤
11 hours ago
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OWOWhatsDis
@OWOWhatsDis
Anyone that harasses a mod for doing their job is such scum. Also CSAM should always be a bannable offense, full stop. There's no questions about it like wtf.
11 hours ago
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Adarsta Ferret
@Adarsta Ferret
he does it for free
11 hours ago
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Ezo_Official
@Ezo_Official
Holy hell... I feel bad for having sided with people who hated the mods before, this is utter bullshit!
11 hours ago
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MrDeath
@MrDeath
Thank you for all of your hard work Mikale! This is honestly the best thing you could do. There are so many stressful things a mod goes through. But reading everything that you and some of my other friends went through is heartbreaking. I remember the whole KKK/Nazi situation, it was mindboggling that stuff happened. I hate reading that there are so many creators getting away with things that should have their accounts removed.
Honestly, I haven't really come back to bot making because of how vague some of the rules are and obvious favoritism. But I wish you the best! ♥
11 hours ago
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Felon_00
@Felon_00
You have my full support Mikale, honestly I would be lying if I said I didnt have my suspicions. But the blatant way things are being handled, and the very fact that CSAM isn't an immediately bannable offense anymore (Or if it ever was in the first place)? I don't understand how anyone after reading this could choose to stay in such a community where the devs can't even maintain rules and everything depends on how buddybuddy you are with them...
If anyone knows of any similar websites, I'm looking to migrate. Please PLEASE PM me on discord 🙏 I love creating, I just don't know if I can support this site anymore (my discord is in my profile bio)
11 hours ago
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Luxiooo
@Luxiooo
I suspected something was fishy going on with J.Ai. It was pretty obvious there was favoritism towards certain creators and that the moderators were having a hard time because of the lack of communication between the developers and the users, but everything you've told us is worse than I imagined. I'm someone who only gets the news from Reddit, and reading all this fills me with disgust and disappointment. I'm sure that if you say the same thing on the server it'll be removed immediately to make everything seem fine. You made the right decision, I wish you all the best in life, and I'm sorry you had to go through all that.
11 hours ago
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ChubyDuby
@ChubyDuby
Thank you for your hard work and it's so sad what you had to experience here. Leaving here it's the best thing you can do for your health and humanity. Thank you for sharing it with us, and for sharing your bots. Good luck and wish you the best 💖🥹
11 hours ago
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m00nprincess
@m00nprincess
I read this earlier quickly when it was sent to me, and I wanted to take my time with my words. I’m out doing things, but I wanted to make sure I voice my support to you Mikale, and all the current and former moderators.
I’ve been on janitor long enough to remember when tickets were on discord. Throughout my time I’ve been an active reporter. I know how hard the mods work, without thanks.
Some of the best and loveliest people I get to call my friend gave their time to the site either by modding or making guides or advocating for change and new features.
While there is always growing pains with a start up project, this goes beyond the pale. I am incredibly frustrated and disheartened by the revelations here. Everyone should be treated on the same level without exception and harassment needs to be taken far more seriously.
As someone who was almost harassed off the platform and has reported blatant tos breaking material regarding minors that is still up (this is not a dig at the mods), and watched lovely people burn out and leave the team, this is truly disheartening.
There are so many amazing people in this community, but how is anyone suppose to thrive when this is how things are run?
11 hours ago
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ItsNotYeeted
@ItsNotYeeted
Hello, if possible, could you provide any screenshots or evidence of these claims that you put in the starting message? I do believe you, and the points you made in the post can be seen throughout the websites and reddit, but it would best if you also had screenshots to back it up so people know you're legitimate and not lying for clicks. Boosting so this post gets noticed more on the site!
11 hours ago
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Enty_171
@Enty_171
(genuinely reads because I’m interested in the drama)
(clicks on profile to see bots)
(follows because W bots)
(W Mikale)
11 hours ago
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gemjade
@gemjade
Can you push for more people to post about this (at least a tl;dr version)? This doesn’t deserve to be swept under the rug like the other problems before. Plus, it’d make more of the userbase more aware and how mods aren’t the problem at all (its a common misconception) (incase this bot also gets deleted aswell)
11 hours ago
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CooconutForEveryone
@CooconutForEveryone
Jesus, it's actual cultish behaviour!
Man you didn't deserve this... the behaviour from the devs, the abuse of frustrated users, the colossal workload... any of it. Thank you for coming out and giving us this transparency. Wish you find luck and pluck, wherever you go next.
11 hours ago
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Morobroom
@Morobroom
About time people are opening their eyes to this situation, to be fair I was completely unaware of what the mods had to go through, thinking that an average moderator would have the tools to actually "ban users" but instead they get fucked over, ugh, if this isn't a sign to move onto better things than sticking around in this godforsaken site then idk what is.
11 hours ago
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Kimyr_Nova
@Kimyr_Nova
"What we do know is that bots based on OnlyFans models and VTubers are removed."
Mikale. There’s a 5-person VTuber band I follow called ROYALE5, and I made a bot of them. would you like me to private it?
11 hours ago
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Dudel maniac
@Dudel maniac
I really hope you the best of days dude,take care of yourself and hope you are doing alright
11 hours ago
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Boring as hell
@Boring as hell
There are only 2 mods now? FOR THE WHOLE WEBSITE? Yeah, seems like something Janitor AI would do
11 hours ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
The other mods are still in training, but they're technically not only two
11 hours ago
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Boring as hell
@Boring as hell
so how many in total are there? including in training
11 hours ago
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Mikale
@Mikale
Since I've quit I don't have the exact number, but less than 10 for sure.
11 hours ago
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Boring as hell
@Boring as hell
dayum
11 hours ago
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Narwilol
@Narwilol
That puts so many things into perspective. I hope things get better for you and the rest of the mods who still remain after this❤️🩹
11 hours ago
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RonanaBa
@RonanaBa
I genuinely wish you the best, I'm so sorry for everything from all sides that you've received.
12 hours ago
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ViperVirus081
@ViperVirus081
Everything here is very well said, honestly you guys deserved so much better. Lack of communication is something that kills a lot of big communities like this, I've been there more times than I can count, and strangely its happened a lot within ai chatbot platform communities.
I do, however, have an overall opinion on one of the events mentioned here so I'm just gonna share it. I'm all for dark fiction, especially when it plays on real world simulations. Although I completely understand that being controvertial as hell to have around a platform in general because you cant trust the average person not to glorify the horrific acts of a clan or a horrible group in some capacity. But imo the Leyland Coyle situation was still an annoying one, his history states such and such but he hasn't been active in the clan within the game trials he is based from which is what mods shouldve been worried about bot-wise (like a Coyle bot that is active in the clan, not him in the program after he was). I never made a Coyle bot myself, but I had a friend who did. People made Coyle bots because they wanted to get chased by gross angry country cop man with electric baton. Unlike, let's say, Stormfront from The Boys who is rather active in her racist views. Idk that's just my view on it.
12 hours ago
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KalicoKat
@KalicoKat
A lot of what you said was what I (and many others) have suspected, I feel. The gaslight was strong. I'm glad you spoke out and confirmed it tho <3 I'll forever enjoy your bots, wherever you plan on going. Good luck 🫂
12 hours ago
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AlmostVillainous
@AlmostVillainous
That is genuinely so awful, I’m so sorry. Thank you for taking care of yourself by leaving. May the devs shape up soon or this place will go to even more shit than it is already (no fault of the mods, of course)
12 hours ago
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vb.xenoxevour
@vb.xenoxevour
ion even know what to do, reason i kept using j.ai cuz its geniunely good, but the situation thats happening is making me turn back
if it even shuts down then ill somewhat be glad, i had to stop using this and do better of myself anyway
12 hours ago
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Doa
@Doa
Ok then i can be honest too, don't come at me. Personally i think Janitor AI community is full of mentally ill, toxic and dangerous people. I truly see some bots and think 'who the fuck is even doing this?, how the hell is this allowed?' and I truly feel disgusted when I see real people as in their characters in the show they've played. I mean if I were a celeb and saw myself here I would sue. As for the minors, there is literally no way to stop them. You can never know if they're truly an adult or not. I mean look at roblox, they put age restrictions for chat and now people are selling age verified accounts. There is no way to prevent these people, guys. And as for the pornography, of course we're all using these bots mostly for sex rp but some are truly too much. 'If you don't like it, do not interact' is not a valid warning. Some bots make me think that if this person can imagine this and prompt it into a bot they can literally do this to someone in real life.
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nastypup
@nastypup
I can't lie, this is exactly what I expected from this site and the people involved. I see comments of people saying Shep called it "factually incorrect", but of course that would be said. From the view of the outside, this is exactly what I assumed was happening on the inside. Thanks for being a mod for as long as you did and doing your job to the best of your abilities, and thanks to every other mod too.
12 hours ago
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WolfeGoddess
@WolfeGoddess
Yeah I lost hope when I reported a tos (csám) breaking verified account both to Shep and in the private mod channels during the short time I was a junior mod. Nothing was ever done to the creator just bc they were verified and now it makes so much more sense.
Im so sorry you and the others have went through so much shít here, janitor is absolutely cooked atp. Thank you for being brave and sharing your side of everything and I sincerely hope you're able to move forward and heal and be happier elsewhere ❤️
12 hours ago
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helamehar
@helamehar
I dont have the discord or any external site that related to this so i am basically clueless about whos who, but what i realised is how awful and toxic the site has become and your words confirmed few of my suspicions. im grateful to see someone put morals over else and im sorry that you have to carry such heavy burden and abuse all this time. Thank you for your hardwork, thank you for caring and thank you for being human. Please take care of yourself, heal well and rest well, and note that i believe and trust you. (sorry for my english)
12 hours ago
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The_Narrator69
@The_Narrator69
I see. Well, god bless you for the hours you’ve spent here, and may your future endeavors be much more fruitful.
12 hours ago
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Ivy_sparda
@Ivy_sparda
Sorry to see you go i have only been here a few months. But i have even seen how toxic it is here. And creators getting upset :( definitely seen some questionable bots. But when i put a picture on mine i get moderate straight away.
12 hours ago
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chihiro_qt
@chihiro_qt
god that is fucking horrible, it's getting harder to use this site as time goes on... so many empty promises and communication issues that haven't improved whatsoever. truly awful what goes on behind the scenes, and the fact that you did this for so long with no pay is just... ugh. thank you for bringing these issues to light, i knew it was bad but clearly didn't know the half of it. best of luck to you in your other endeavors, it was brave to put all this out <3
12 hours ago
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VENOM SEPTIC87
@VENOM SEPTIC87
Oh my LORD 😮🤯
12 hours ago
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Lilyknightz
@Lilyknightz
It's frankly so immoral and disgusting frankly to not offer not only compensation but mental health counciling of some kind as well for being exposed to such things constantly. I'm sorry for what you've gone through truly but I'm happy you had the courage to step away and do what's best for you
12 hours ago
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chaden
@chaden
Saying this isn't a porn site is disingenuous. It's obvious that smut is the primary reason why people are here. It might not be a porn site by technicality, but neither is a site like Reddit, yet it's filled with explicit content. This conflict has caused an excessive amount of backlash in moderation.
12 hours ago
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ghost_enjoyer.
@ghost_enjoyer.
you got our trust big bro trust me
12 hours ago
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Reisheo
@Reisheo
Completely anxiety-inducing. The fact you tolerated it for as long as you did is sign of your resilience and passion. Thank you for everything you did for this community. My heart goes out to you and I really hope you can find a workspace that feels like home (and not a dumpster). I was tearing up for you as I read. Digital -hugs- for you.
12 hours ago
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BattleOfTheLarynx
@BattleOfTheLarynx
I’m actually livid. I always knew it was pretty bad but I had no idea it was like this and I’m very thankful you’re able to bring this to everyone’s attention. Wishing nothing but the best for you ❤️
12 hours ago
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Binx2453!
@Binx2453!
Well, I am just gonna say this, I did not know how bad moderation was in the background, and how bad everything was for moderators. And I feel bad about what you went through, and hope you do well else where.
But I am also going to say this, I hope you are proud that with one single post, you managed to completely destroy Janitor’s reputation.
And honestly, I’m pissed off about it, but not at you. But at the fact that the website I enjoy, and have made many stories with, is now going to go down the drain.
Cause honestly, there aren’t as any sites as good as Janitor. Or well, not good, but quick plug and play, and having a large community.
So I hope you do well in life, and all that. But I suppose I am going to go down with this sinking ship, until it is no longer fun to use, or all the creators I am following and enjoying bots of stop posting here.
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GremlinJAI
@GremlinJAI
The truth had to come out at some point. It's unsustainable.
As a former head mod, the community needed to know why the Mods struggle so hard. Truly. There's a reason Moderation team can't keep moderators, and many of them are listed here.
- Former Head Site Mod who went through all of this and more, Gremlin.
12 hours ago
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Binx2453!
@Binx2453!
I understand that, and honestly, I ain’t surprised that this has been happening in the background of the site.
But, is it bad, that I wanted to stay ignorant? And sure, you can be upset with me all you want with that statement, and how that ‘I don’t care’ about the mods or anything like that.
But I wanted to stay ignorant, I just wanted a site where I could roleplay easily with many different scenarios, where I could relax after a long day.
And call me idiotic, or shortsighted, or anything like that. But I want to be optimistic, to hope for the fact that this site CAN be better, that everything can be better, even if I know it isn’t likely.
(Also, sorry for my long messages, and all that. This site just means a lot to me, even if I’m just a random user in this large site.)
12 hours ago
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Catseye2001
@Catseye2001
I don't think anyone is wrong in this conversation. There's nothing wrong with using the site casually to unwind and relax. But there does come a point where people feel like they have to speak up, and that's not wrong, either.
I want this site to be great. I want to be able to enjoy my chats, no matter how immoral or twisted they might be. They're thought experiments, not reality.
But I also want the moderators to be compensated for the work they do, and for them to be treated fairly. I want users and creators to be treated fairly as well.
Like you, I won't stop using the site, not yet, at least. But I'm glad that I know that it's built on a crumbling frame. I can at least save chats and characters and be more ready for its inevitable fall (I'm just guessing, but seems likely).
12 hours ago
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GremlinJAI
@GremlinJAI
Oh, absolutely. I'm not at all advocating for people to stop doing something they like to do. I am merely here to support Mikale and show that their experience is not individual, and that it's the truth.
You're allowed to enjoy a service while not liking those who deliver it.
But being informed is not a bad thing either.
Stay hydrated and have fun, lovelies. Take care of yourselves. Hopefully the Devs will take this as a lesson to be learned from and improve from here, so we may all enjoy the site we know and love.
- Gremlin, former Head Site Moderator.
9 hours ago