PLEASE, DO NOT SHOW THIS TO ANYBODY, IT IS FOR STAFF MEMBERS ONLY. WE TRUST YOU GUYS, NO MORE TRAITORS.

INTRODUCTION

Alright staff members.

We have a slight problem for 2-3 days with Shin. We are dealing with what we call a huge betrayal that targets me so I will speak a lot of myself there, sorry for the ridiculousness of the situation.
Normally we take care of this ourselves (or with super moderators) but we need to explain you the situation for 2 reasons:

  1. Poszer was one of the biggest contributors lately
  2. He is spreading pure lies because his ego has been hurt, so we need to stop it

THE PROBLEM


Part 1 - the plot

I've not been very active for 1-2 months. This is important to note because I was not involved in all that shit until recently when I decided to clear it up. I also was some kind of mentor to Poszer for a long time (I taught Poszer GIT and some coding, I recruited Poszer to the team, I ranked him up from 0 to max).
Poszer was the only SUPER MODERATOR which means he could ban people on Discord and act on admin's behalf if needed. He rarely made use of that status because it's risky, it can backfire.

So what happened ?

Like 20 days ago, Poszer asked me to be removed from Staff and to have his ranks removed, but without telling me any reason, so I asked him to give me his reasons but he didn't, so I waited to ask him again. I was busy with stuff so 10 days later he complained to Shin who removed his ranks. When Talamortis saw this, it motivated him to FINALLY leave the project.
During the past 2 years, Talamortis threatened to leave the project like 5 times, twice before I became admin, when there were no developers to help me (always when the project was in trouble, he wanted to quit). Poszer also warned that he might leave the project 2-3 times in the past months.
So for me, it wasn't a surprise and there was nothing we could do to prevent it.

Talamortis' reasons to leave (quotes from him):

speedfangzHier à 00:20
My Reasons for leaving Azerothcore

1. Hackfixes are getting pushed without being fully tested
2. Viste is a fucking arse whole.
3. Management dont do much.
4. too much drama.


speedfangzAujourdhui à 18:56
even azerothcore is now full of hackfixes

Poszer's reasons to leave (I sum up because it was very illogically written):

  1. Hackfixes are getting pushed without being fully tested ==> the guilty is Winfidonarleyan for them (and a bit Stoabrogga for Poszer), one of our hard working developer.
  2. Admins don't listen to his AWESOME suggestions.
  3. He hates the russians' behaviour because they are not "nice". Especially Viste, but Viste is not a quitter/traitor and still contributes so we don't ban him but we moderate his messages from time to time.
  4. Really I don't remember another reason, it was not clear as usual because Poszer was always afraid to tell the truth when it was risky for him...

Poszer even criticized Stoabrogga's pull requests 1 month ago... Of course, I couldn't agree with his arguments so he felt ignored by the admins...


Part 2 - the revelations

So 8 days after Poszer left AzerothCore, we noticed (me, shin and probably stoabrogga) that Poszer started to put vicious comments/emoji everytime he could. He was doing what Viste was doing while he said he left because of Viste... Everybody knows that Viste is annoying, but if Poszer starts doing that, we have to do something because it is unusual and he represented AzerothCore. So I told him that I was going to remove his stupid messages.
I removed 2 messages of him (I warned him for the first message, not for the second). Then he ignored me for days.

I also asked him why he wanted his ranks removed. Now started the drama. He said he wanted his ranks removed because I'm censoring him while Viste is free to say anything (which is wrong and Poszer had the right to remove his messages, like everybody with permissions on github = everybody in the staff). His ranks were removed 10 days ago, so that makes 0 sense.
He started saying shit about me, basically denying everything he agreed with before (when he was SUPER MODERATOR). Everytime I banned/deleted a message, I talked about it with him and Shin first but now he said that he didn't agree with any of that and that without me AzerothCore would be perfect.
There is only one thing to conclude, that Poszer is a coward, so I told him that he was a coward and a hypocrite. He felt immensely insulted by the truth.

During that conversation, Poszer, aka the genius, admitted that he was going to make his own core based on AC. He also said everything and its contrary, he would criticize Shin then say the opposite soon after (only to always say the opposite of me), criticize Winfi then say also i don't have nothing against them...

QUOTES FROM POSZER:

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[Poszer]vendredi dernier à 20:54
And if you are not here
This AC would be Ideal project

Random people get so easy permissions and ranks

(yeah like... Poszer maybe?)

[Poszer]vendredi dernier à 21:30
always
it's open source
Under private

Barbzvendredi dernier à 21:30
same for talamortis, i knew he would leave

★彡[Poszer]彡★vendredi dernier à 21:30
or under releaseing
releasing core

Barbzvendredi dernier à 21:31
you make your own core ?

★彡[Poszer]彡★vendredi dernier à 21:31
yes

Barbzvendredi dernier à 21:31
for public
or priv

★彡[Poszer]彡★vendredi dernier à 21:31
Public or Private whatever
can do that always

Barbzvendredi dernier à 21:31
hehe you can team with winfi's core
or Nix's core

★彡[Poszer]彡★vendredi dernier à 21:31
Nix starting from stratch, so give that guy one big respect about it
He don't have in mind to start from sunwell
To be clear about that

Barbzvendredi dernier à 21:32
tell him how much you respect him

[Poszer]vendredi dernier à 21:32
Mangos -> TC->Sunwell->AC
Right ?

Barbzvendredi dernier à 21:32
yes it's the inheritance

★彡[Poszer]彡★vendredi dernier à 21:32
I respect what he do
I didn't aggre with how he act
and he know that
:smile:

Barbzvendredi dernier à 21:33
well good luck with your core

[Poszer]vendredi dernier à 21:33
Thanks, u2

Immediately after that, he blocked me and contacted Shin (who is admin + co-founder of AzerothCore) to say this if Barbz ever left or being kicked from AC, count at me in any time. Until he's there i'll not come back...
Note: his reasons to leave AC were completely different, as mentioned above, and I was not even there during that period.

Then he spread a lot of lies or misinterpreted stuff that came from the people me AND Poszer banned long ago for very good reasons. He decided to ally with the people he hated (3 or 4 of them o_0), to take revenge upon me... That really explains a lot about his mindset and I wasn't expecting that (my mistake probably?).

Betrayals count:

  • Poszer leaves AzerothCore with a small drama about Viste/Winfi/Brussens/Stoabrogga. That "remove my ranks" request probably triggered Talamortis to leave too (this is my interpretation though).
  • Poszer wants to make his own core based on AC and compete with us.
  • Poszer tells Shin that if I get KICKED from Admin role, he will come back to AzerothCore.
  • Poszer starts to spread lies about me, tries to manipulate Shin and allies himself with people he asked me to ban in the past (Anakin Skywalker style).
  • Poszer and Tala continue to post stupid comments/emojis on github, like Viste sometimes
  • Poszer new github status is now: "Don't giving support anymore about AzerothCore. Ask Barbz-> :poop:"

Note that Tala laid low, he didn't make much problem despite some comments on github and in private but it's okay.

I have all the proofs needed if you wonder.

Only on AC, we can see that kind of StarWars betrayal, but that's because we give the chance for everybody to contribute. We know that it can happen, but we still take the risk. I doubt they even try on Mangos/TC.

Why did Poszer do that ?

  1. I think Poszer grew from a very humble person, to a more arrogant one. He is a beginner/hobbyist developer who thought he was greater than he really was, maybe because he contributed that much to AzerothCore. However, the ranks do not display the level of a contributor but the quantity and effort of contribution he put into the project.
    2 days ago, after they criticized Winfidonarleyan, I told them I would hire Winfidonarleyan but would never hire Talamortis based on his skills. Of course, they didn't appreciate this but their opinion on "hackfixes" is ridiculous, whether there have been mistakes made or NOT.
  2. You need to know that when someone leaves or make a drama, I will investigate to know what happened (because I don't want this to happen again). When I see some lies, some hypocrisy I will say it to trigger a reaction. And the people who lie always hate when they have been discovered. I think that's the only explanation because as Shin said to Poszer:
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you just started bitching around posting stupid comments on github like "we don't need this, good luck with that"
so barbz, who is always against public drama, removed them
like he always removes this kind of bad comments from anyone
that's it
if you didn't post such comments, everything fine with Barbz and the problem would still be Stoabrogga or Winfy ignoring you or something else

Nothing else makes sense.

CONCLUSION

So now, if you read about this story, you know the real deal (without too many details because it's long and annoying).

We may or may not ban him from Github after this situation is entirely settled. He left our discord but he is now banned from it anyway. Talamortis is not banned anywhere.

This was a message from the admins.

PLEASE, DO NOT LINK THIS TO ANYBODY, IT IS FOR STAFF MEMBERS ONLY. WE TRUST YOU GUYS, NO MORE TRAITORS.

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Pub: 18 Aug 2019 20:12 UTC

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