Why antis have to stop consuming clearly questionable media (but in this case, esp kuroshitsuji) and forcing to enter/be in spaces clearly aren't for them

  1. “ Yana doesnt ship them!”
    There is no irrefutable proofs to say if she ship them or not, but can be clues probably (and mostly certainly) she can ship them without show it explicitly and is her past as mangaka

    Around 2003-2005 yana started as many of us, being fan and artist of the things she like, and with a pseudonym called “yanao rock”. Thanks to the research of this chérie we know she did many one shots and doujinshins where the topics around them was mostly yaoi of doudous themes (esp incest/brocon and pseudo-shotacon)

  2. “Thats her past, maybe she rethink in the future her chooses”
    Actually ... not. Since the release of kuroshitsuji in 2006, there is a particular work of her called “kimi ni negai wo” that she did in the same time and the protagonist are sora (curiously, in jp means “sky” as “ciel” means in french) and agni, two twins who ... have a peculiar relationship

    Other point but not least important, in the own kuroshitsuji work lau and ranmao treat them as “sibling” in some way. We don't know exactly what is the relationship of them, but even so, apparently they aren't siblings (or at least not mentions of being blood related) but they treat as ones, mostly lau calling her as “my little sister” and she accept his spoiling, soft and caring treatment

  3. “Ok, but i dont support her!”
    I don't believe in the thing “separate the art from artist” bcs is stupid, if you consume them and talk of it to other ppl, in some way ... you are doing them propaganda and also more recognition, with the butterfly effect that maybe one of five persons you could talk with them (or heard about) the topic, probably gonna spend money on the author

    Then, if you hate them, so much ¿why you still consume their stuffs and doing them free propaganda?

    Reading/watching a work with pedo things, satanic abuse, trafic, etc etc and being (non) anti or still harrass/against ships such as sebaciel sounds like "ok, i can support pedophil (manga dark themes) but i cant support that pedophil (implied ships)” Think about it, sounds funny and nonsense

  4. “All the proship fandom are such pedos!”
    This point is also nonsense. First, fic ≠ irl (even if could affect a bit, each person have their own criteria to separate it and if affect them or not), but if you didn't understand this anyways, in this case, reading absolutely all proofs yana still do indirectly problematic fiction and have a “problematic” past, have you ever thought that such “pedo fandom” then is just being feeding with “another pedo” in your perspective (yana)?

    You don't have the right and is nonsense to harrass the (non) proship fandom when the author technically think the same things of them

  5. “Yana is not like that! She has been forced to do the anime yaoi bait!”
    First, lemme laugh, and two, she hadn't be forced to anything. Each work (yes, even twisted wonderland) that was made for and by her type of audience was also directed by her.

    In some magazines and jp interviews since the release of kuroshitsuji one season she has said that love so much some parts of the anime, also indirectly doing mention of some fan service with amusement expressions (in jp way, like “excitingly blushing”)

    Also, in other interviews around the beta designs of twst characters, taking apart the famous data that leechs would had have piercings, also she said ortho gonna be more tiny and “childlike” but disney stop her to do it, but even that, since the existence of twst apparently ortho is the favourite of yana bcs each card designs usually looks better or more stunning comparing to other characters


  • There are many others almost and technically irrefutable clues that yana still do questionable fiction and she likes it, but are too punctual that im lazy to talk about, but these are like the basic points
  • If you are still in abnegation, i give you the welcome to the real fandom of yana for first time! i hope you can enjoy your (non) proship side to the rest of your life ^^ remember shut ur mouth bcs yana doesn't like you if doesn't embrace the normal being (not harrass over fiction), or better leave the fandom
  • All this points above are applicable also for other works, esp jp ones. Be aware jp culture is weird for the westerns, and most certainly not only for the excentrique attractions the city could have but for their otaku culture, and this includes dark fiction

    For mostly of jp and otakus (in any area) haven't a problem to the dark/questionable fiction as long as just be in that, fiction only (and sometimes jokes, but that's other topic)


Disclaimers:

  • I put “non proshipers” and “non antis” bcs not all the fandom who consume questionable fiction consider as proship, and not all ppl who harrass over fiction consider them as "anti".
  • The jp community (non twt centric) consider the term proship and anti as unnecessary and “silly”, for them comsume dark fiction knowing not condone those things irl is “being normal”
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Pub: 21 Oct 2023 00:22 UTC
Edit: 21 Oct 2023 02:36 UTC
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