Nox's Syscourse Stances

This page provides somewhat detailed explanations regarding our stances in various topics in system discourse. Topics that are not mentioned here are either things that we have declined to answer, are neutral, or have no opinion on. You may still interact with us if you have opposing views as long as you remain civil. If you are going to harass us over our views, you will be blocked without hesitation.

Warning: Section 7 has mentions of death, dormancy, and fusion. Read at your own risk.

1. Endogenic plurality is real and valid.

Yes, we fully believe in and support endogenic systems. This includes but is not limited to: parogenic systems, neurogenic systems, stressgenic systems, paragenic systems, and more. We do not believe that trauma is the sole cause of plurality (thought it is certainly the most common from what we've observed). Everyone's brain is different and unique, and we will not police the functions of someone else's brain. It's not our business to know, and we'd never 100% know what goes on in there, anyway, so what gives us the right to say who is and isn't a real system?

A lot of people who do not associate themselves closely or at all with endogenic communities seem to forget or not know that similar to how all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares, all parogenic/willogenic systems are endogenic, but not all endogenic systems are parogenic/willogenic. Not all endogenics are happy to be plural, either. Some really do wish that they were a singlet, but life said "no."

Additionally, endogenic does not mean that the system did not experience any trauma at all. It simply means that trauma is not what caused their system to form. For example, they may have had plural experiences for some time and experienced something traumatic later in life. This is out of the time window for DID/OSDD to form, but plurality, on the other hand, can occur at any age. Endogenic also does not mean "a system that forgot about their trauma and does not think that they have any." It means they did not form from trauma. Period.

2. Mixed origins systems are real and valid.

Often times, when a system says that they are of mixed origins, they are referring to the origins of individual members than the system itself. One example would be a system that has traumagenic members, but also has willogenic members that were intentionally created in order to handle something that existing alters could not. Another example would be a system that is primarily endogenic, but they experienced trauma later in life that caused a new headmate to form. We ourselves are a mixed origins system (isoscegenic, to be more precise) that mainly formed as a result of stress and/or trauma, but there are a few members who formed through other ways that fall under endogenic.

3. You cannot have DID/OSDD without having childhood trauma.

Yes, we support endogenic systems, but do not believe that you can have DID/OSDD without having experienced childhood trauma. Endogenic plurality does not necessarily mean that a system is saying that they have DID/OSDD without trauma. Being plural does not equal having DID/OSDD. Plurality is something that can be caused by DID/OSDD, and plurality itself is not inherently a disorder. There are endogenic systems who believe that you can be a DID/OSDD system without trauma, yes, but a lot of endogenic plurals use the endogenic label because they are trying to make it clear that what they are experiencing is not DID/OSDD. Additionally, not all people with DID/OSDD will consider themselves to be plural or a system, but rather, simply a person with a disorder.

In regards to mixed origin DID/OSDD systems, if we go along with the first example we provided in Section 2, mixed origin DID/OSDD systems are possible if the system itself existed prior to the formation of its endogenic members. We will not judge DID/OSDD systems for finding that whatever was going on at that given point in time was not something they could handle with the alters they already had, so they sought to create new ones, nor will we judge DID/OSDD systems for having members that don't seem to have come from any trauma or stress-related factors.

4. Self-diagnosis is valid.

Self-diagnosing DID/OSDD (and other disorders) is valid as long as you have done thorough research on whatever disorder(s) you think you have. Professional diagnosis is a privilege determined by money, safety, and the desire to be diagnosed in the first place. A person should not seek professional diagnosis if their only intention is to be validated. If you are looking for a professional diagnosis, then you should at least have a loose idea of some kind of treatment plan. A diagnosis can also put a person at risk, as they may live with someone who discriminates against people with mental disorders, does not think they are real, refuses to believe that the person has a disorder, etc. They may also be discriminated against in work and clinical settings. There is a reason why a vast majority of disordered people hide their symptoms and try to appear as neurotypical as possible.

5. The word "tulpa" is cultural appropriation, and other terms should be used instead.

In Pluralpedia's "history" section on the Tulpamancy page, it states that the word "tulpa" first appears in the book Magic and Mystery in Tibet, written by Theosophist Alexandra David-Néel and published in 1929. The word is taken from the Tibetan world "sprulpa," which roughly translates to "manifestation" or "emanation." In other words, using the term "tulpa" is appropriating a word taken from another language. The practice of purposefully creating sentient beings in your mind that are separate from yourself is valid. However, we do believe that you should use other terms like paromancy, parogenic, and parogens to describe your experience, or come up with some new terms to use.

6. "Demo" systems aren't a real thing.

Being plural is not something that you can just "try out" to see if you like it or not. Once you have a sentient headmate, there is no simple backspace button. You can't just delete them from existence and forget about them if you decide that you would rather be a singlet. If you genuinely have other sentient beings with you in your head, please understand that if you want to remove them from your life, it will take some time and effort, as well as understanding and communicating with one another, regardless of your system origins. To deny the existence of a headmate and forcibly cast them out will more often than not lead to some dire consequences.

7. Headmate/alter death in the literal sense is not real.

A headmate can "die" in the headspace, yes, but they cannot literally die unless the body dies. When someone "dies" in the innerworld, they may be thrown into dormancy, become some sort of undead being, or, similar to how some video games work, simply "respawn" after death and carry on as usual. For us, we will usually experience respawning after death, but on very rare occasions, an alter will go dormant for a bit after dying. You are allowed to be angry and sad; you can mourn an innerworld death, or hell, you could even be happy about it, but remember that they are not truly dead. To die in a literal sense is impossible unless the body itself is dead.

Staying on the topic of alter death, fusion is not murder, nor does it mean that those headmates are gone. We do not think that this should have to be said, but there are still people out there who equate fusion to "killing your headmates." A system member is not "dead" or "gone" when they have fused. They are still there, just not as a separate person anymore. They may have been absorbed by another headmate and are now a part of them, or they may have fused with another system member to become an entirely new person that is a combination between them. Of course, you are allowed to have negative feelings about them no longer being there as their own separate person. You can be angry, sad, and confused. You can mourn the loss of them as an independent person. For many systems, especially those who are at least some part traumagenic, fusion means healing, but that doesn't always make it easy. Even with fusions done intentionally and/or with joy, fusion can drastically affect the functions of a system, as well as their internal and external dynamics with other people. These changes can take some time to get used to, and you should take all the time you need to adjust.

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Pub: 12 Jun 2023 10:03 UTC
Edit: 13 Jun 2023 20:43 UTC
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